Proving Limit of sin (n!*R*π) for Rational R

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The limit of the sequence sin(n!*R*π) converges to 0 when R is a rational number expressed as a/b. The critical insight is that for n=b, all subsequent terms of the sequence equal zero, confirming the limit. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly incorporating the variable b into the limit definition and understanding the relationship between ε and n. This understanding resolves the initial confusion regarding the convergence of the sequence.

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Hi,
Here is my dilemma: I am to prove that sin (n!*R*pi) has a limit, where R is a rational number. I rewrite R as a/b and I can see that whenever n=b, every subsequent term will be zero. I have tried to write this out using the definition of a limit, but I can't seem to break it down. I have been looking at these problems for a long time and I am blocked on this one.
Thanks in advance,
CC
 
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For a sequence [tex]a_n[/tex], we say that [tex]a_n \rightarrow L[/tex] if for every [tex]\epsilon > 0[/tex] we can find an [tex]N(\epsilon)[/tex] such that [tex]| a_n - L | < \epsilon[/tex] for [tex]n > N(\epsilon)[/tex].

You have guessed correctly that the limit is 0. Now I give you an [tex]\epsilon[/tex] and ask you to tell me where I should start looking so that the terms of the sequence are always closer than [tex]\epsilon[/tex] to the limit. Tell me where to look by giving me N. You've already pointed out that the terms of the sequence equal the limit beyond a certain point ...
 
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hey,
I think I got it. I wasn't including my b in the expansion of the n! as the spot where the sequence converges. I couln't relate the epsilon to the b or the n. It's just the algebra. That's what was giving me the headache. I had been doing the ones that are all polynomials and my brain was fried.

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