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| Sep16-05, 03:49 AM | #1 |
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Need replacements for these words (incl. titles, forms of address)
I need to come up with female replacements for the following male words. For instance, as she replaces he and Queen replaces King.
man son prince lord my lord your lordship The replacements should have the same general meaning, but it doesn't need to be exact. The problem is that the replacements also need to have the same number of words and number and pattern of syllables. For instance, my lady (3 syllables) will not work for my lord (2 syllables); madam (stressed, unstressed) will not work for my lord (unstressed, stressed); madam also won't work for my lord because madam is only one word. Your grace could possibly work for my lord, but I don't really like the sound of it, and I would much prefer to keep my the same (and I'm not yet clear on all of the titles and forms of address either). Any ideas? These male words all refer to Prince Hamlet, BTW. Here are some words to work with: madam, miss, mistress, maid, ma'am, grace, dame, lady, liege, babe (as in baby, daughter), dove, love, lamb, lark, rose, lass, girl, dear, daughter. |
| Sep16-05, 09:34 AM | #2 |
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man ---> lass
son ---> girl; dot (as in, of my eye?) prince ---> grace? lord ---> dame my lord ---> my dame your lordship ---> your highness |
| Sep16-05, 10:17 AM | #3 |
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| Sep18-05, 02:09 AM | #4 |
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Need replacements for these words (incl. titles, forms of address)I have some leeway with the pronunciation and meter. I think I might stick with my lord - possibly calling other females my lord a few times and mixing up my lord and madam with Hamlet. I don't think man will pose a problem now. It also has special significance in the play that I don't think I want to lose. Prince and son are still problems. I guess I could squeeze in princess. And actually, I want a neutral word for son. Sorry, kind of thinking out loud. Okay, a neutral word for son - something personal, like child. |
| Sep18-05, 02:22 AM | #5 |
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Out of curiosity, why exactly are you rewriting Hamlet word for word except changing Hamlet to a female?
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| Sep18-05, 03:39 AM | #6 |
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| Sep18-05, 05:22 AM | #7 |
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What about "girl" or "gal" replacing son?
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| Sep18-05, 06:19 AM | #8 |
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Yes, I'm still considering them. I don't think gal fits with the style. Child is the best right now; I'm just not sure that it works. Here are some examples of where son would be replaced:
1) Claudius (to Hamlet): But now, my cousin Hamlet, and my _____ ... 2) Hamlet (to father): Do you not come your tardy _____ to chide ... 3) Polonius (to Claudius & Gertrude): Your noble _____ is mad ... 4) Gertrude: And I beseech you instantly to visit My too much changed _____ (those aren't my versions - just straight from a book) With child substituted: (1) Seems ambiguous in the wrong ways. (2) meh, I either love it or hate it, haven't decided yet. (3) Not bad. (4) Seems too general here - and there's that alliteration again - eek, it's grating here. I could of course use different words in different places. Just tossing around some ideas. What else do you call a daughter or child? hm. |
| Sep18-05, 06:31 AM | #9 |
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Although it changes the meaning a bit, could "heir" be used in (1)&(3)?
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| Sep18-05, 06:33 AM | #10 |
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Could Gertrude use "lass"??
(As an affectionate term, perhaps?) |
| Sep18-05, 07:21 AM | #11 |
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Heir might work in some cases - in the third person, perhaps. But I think it's too impersonal and formal for (1) and (3). Lass is the other way - too personal and informal. It's more suited, IMO, to, say
Gertrude (to Hamlet): O gentle _____, Upon the heat and flame of thy distemper Sprinkle cool patience I'm not sure it fits with the style of the play, though a similar word could work there. I still need a word that's personal and formal. I could possibly get away with using son in the same way that I'm thinking of using man. And use child where it's more appropriate. Does anyone else like child? I like child (I can treat it as one syllable or two, as necessary). |
| Sep18-05, 07:29 AM | #12 |
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As in (4), do you think that a distressed mother would use a formal word describing her daughter?
That's why I suggested she might use the more intimate and personal "lass". (I agree it can't be used in the other three). |
| Sep18-05, 08:11 AM | #13 |
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5) Gertrude (to Hamlet): O gentle _____, Upon the heat and flame of thy distemper Sprinkle cool patience I do think a word like lass could work (and that Gertrude is quite distressed here). I just don't really like lass itself. |
| Sep18-05, 08:15 AM | #14 |
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Child looks good to me in 5) at least (and also 4))
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