Finding electric flux through a surface, simple problem, whats wrong?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric flux through a cube's surface given specific electric field values on its top and bottom faces. The problem involves understanding the direction of the electric field and its impact on the flux calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric flux using the formula and question the signs of the flux based on the direction of the electric field. There is an exploration of the implications of negative and positive flux values and their relation to charge calculation.

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At each point on the surface of the cube shown in Figure 23-27, the electric field is parallel to the z axis. The length of each edge of the cube is 4.0 m. On the top face of the cube E = -40 k N/C, and on the bottom face of the cube E = +29 k N/C. Determine the net charge contained within the cube.
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Flux = (29E3 N/C)(4.0)^2;
Flux = 464000 k going up
Flux = (-40E3 N/C)(4.0)^2;
Flux = -640000 k going down
Net Flux = -640000 + 464000 = -176000

I submitted it and was inncorrect,
So i tried added them together and i got 1.104E6, that's the flux, now I found an equation that says, Flux = Qtotal/Eo, so I took Flux*Eo = Qtotal and got 9.7704E-6 and it is still wrong!
 
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When finding the flux through a surface, think in terms of inward (-) and outward (+).
mr_coffee said:
Flux = (29E3 N/C)(4.0)^2;
Flux = 464000 k going up
That should be negative, since it points inward.
Flux = (-40E3 N/C)(4.0)^2;
Flux = -640000 k going down
This is also inward, so negative.
Net Flux = -640000 + 464000 = -176000
Redo this, since both are negative.

I submitted it and was inncorrect,
So i tried added them together and i got 1.104E6, that's the flux, now I found an equation that says, Flux = Qtotal/Eo, so I took Flux*Eo = Qtotal and got 9.7704E-6 and it is still wrong!
Signs matter! The flux is negative.
 
So i got -1.104E-6 for the Flux. So Q = -1.104E-6*8.85E-12 = -9.7704E-6? I have only one more chance so i have to make sure I'm doing this one right, thank you!
 
Well... does that follow from what I said? And do you think what I said is accurate? :wink:
 
ahh it was wrong, what did i mess up?
 
mr_coffee said:
ahh it was wrong, what did i mess up?
Nothing that I can see. But those on-line systems can be picky. (Units, significant figures, etc.)
 
yeah i hate this system, i'll ask the professor tomarrow what's up, thanks!
 

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