Proving I^n+J^m=R for Coprime I,J in a Ring R

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The discussion centers on proving that for coprime ideals I and J in a commutative ring R, the equation I^n + J^m = R holds for any positive integers m and n. The focus is on exploring algebraic manipulations and expansions to demonstrate this relationship.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests showing that 1 belongs to I^n + J^m by using the fact that there exist elements i in I and j in J such that i + j = 1.
  • Another participant proposes considering the expression (i + j) raised to a power larger than both m and n, assuming R is commutative.
  • A participant confirms that R is commutative and discusses expanding (i + j) to powers such as m + n or mn, but expresses difficulty in deriving a useful conclusion from this expansion.
  • One participant believes they have found a path forward by expanding (i + j) to the power of m + n and manipulating the resulting sums to isolate terms involving i^n and j^m.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of using expansions of (i + j) to prove the statement, but there is no consensus on the specific steps or conclusions drawn from these expansions. The discussion remains exploratory with varying levels of progress among participants.

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Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps necessary to demonstrate the claim fully, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the manipulation of the expansions.

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I want to show that if I and J are coprime ideals of a ring R, so I+J=R, then for any positive numbers m and n we also have [itex]I^n+I^m=R[/itex].

I thought the easiest way to do it was to show that [itex]1 \in I^n+J^m[/itex] given that there exist [itex]i\in I[/itex] and [itex]j\in J[/itex] such that [itex]i+j=1[/itex]. But I haven't had much luck yet. Any hint would be appreciated.
 
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I'm going to hope that R is commutative, for then consider (i+j) raised to some power to do with m and n but larger than both.
 
Yes, R is commutative. I forgot to mention that.
I already had tried expanding (i+j) to some power. For example m+n or mn:
[tex]1=(i+j)^{m+n}=(i+j)^m(i+j)^n=\sum_{k=0}^m {m \choose k}i^{m-k}j^k\sum_{k=0}^{n}{n \choose k}i^{n-k}j^k=\sum_{k=0}^{m+n}i^{m+n-k}j^k[/tex]

[tex]1=(i+j)^{mn}=\sum_{k=0}^{mn}{mn \choose k}i^{mn-k}j^k=\left(\sum_{k=0}^m {m \choose k}i^{m-k}j^k\right)^n[/tex]
I can't see where that leads me. I understand that if I can write 1 as [itex]i^n x+j^m y[/itex] whatever x and y are, then I`m done.
 
I think I've got it.

[tex]1=(i+j)^{m+n}=\sum_{k=0}^{m+n}{m+n \choose k}i^{m+n-k}j^k[/tex]
[tex]\sum_{k=0}^{m}{m+n \choose k}i^{m+n-k}j^k +\sum_{k=m+1}^{m+n}{m+n \choose k}i^{m+n-k}j^k=[/tex]
[tex]i^n\left(\sum_{k=0}^{m}{m+n \choose k}i^{m-k}j^k\right) +j^m\left(\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}{m+n \choose m+1+k}i^{n-1-k}j^{1+k}\right)[/tex]
 

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