Statics: Mechanical Equilibrium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a statics problem involving mechanical equilibrium, specifically analyzing the forces acting on a frame with a weight of 200 lb. Participants explore the application of free body diagrams (FBDs) and the concept of two-force elements in their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their approach using FBDs for the frame and identifies the forces acting at points A and D, noting the angles involved.
  • Another participant questions their understanding of the two-force element concept, suggesting a potential misunderstanding in their application.
  • A participant confirms that member DB is indeed a two-force member, which simplifies the analysis.
  • One participant claims to have calculated the forces at point A as 0 for the x component and 200 lb for the y component, seeking confirmation from others.
  • Another participant provides different values for the forces at point A, stating Fax=400 lb and Fay=200 N down, indicating a disagreement on the results.
  • A later post offers to help others with the solution, suggesting a willingness to assist despite the ongoing confusion.
  • One participant expresses relief at finally understanding the problem, indicating that they initially overcomplicated it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the values of the forces at point A, with differing calculations presented. The discussion reflects uncertainty and varying interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention issues with the clarity of the diagram, which may affect their analysis. There are also unresolved assumptions regarding the application of the two-force element concept and the calculations involved.

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I need some help in this problem to see if my game plan is right. My answer doesn't make sense, well to me it doesn't.

A weight of 200 lb hangs from a frame of negligible weight, as shown. If the frame is in equilibrium, determine the loads acting on the frame at A and D. Use the fact that the frame acts as a three-foce element to check your answer.

-they are all pin connections
-there's a 45 45 90 degree triangle there.

First off i drew a FBD for just DB, and found that it is a two force element, so the line of action passes through the force points of application.

Then when i draw a FBD for ABC the forces at B, it is just a force pointing at a 45 degree angle. Then there's a force Ay and Ax at A and the 200 lb force acting downward at C.

the sum of the forces in the x direction

-Ax -B cos45 = 0

The sum of the force in the y direction

Ay + B sin45 - 200 lb = 0

The sum of the moments in the z direction at point A

-(6ft)(200lb) + (3ft)(Bsin45) = 0
 

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ok i think I'm using the idea of a 2-force element wrong.


The diagram that i have there needs to be zoomed in a bit, doesn't seem to show up right cause some browsers resize it.
If you need a better diagram then i'll try to scan it this time instead of using paint.
 
Member DB is a two force member, that makes the analysis simple.
 
At A, for the force i get

0 for the x component
200 lb for the y component

anyone else get these values at point A?
 
no, Fax=400lb, Fay= 200N down
 
Answer

If anyone ever needs the solution, I'd be more than happy to help you come to it
 
I got it. I was making this problem more harder than it seemed :cry:
 

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