What Factors Affect the Tension in a String Between Two Sliding Boxes?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two masses connected by a string sliding down a ramp. The problem includes factors such as the angle of the ramp, the coefficients of kinetic friction, and the calculation of acceleration and tension in the string.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and the forces acting on each mass, including friction and gravitational forces. There is an emphasis on applying Newton's second law to derive equations for tension.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the application of Newton's second law to analyze the forces acting on each mass. There is an ongoing exploration of how to express the tension in the string and the relationship between the forces and acceleration.

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Participants note the need for showing work and calculations to clarify the reasoning behind the tension and acceleration values. There is a focus on the specific forces acting on each mass and the implications of the ramp's angle and friction coefficients.

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Two masses of 2.00 kg each, connected by a string, slide down a ramp making an angle of 41° with the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction between m1 and the ramp is 0.26. The coefficient of kinetic friction between m2 and the ramp is 0.15. Find the magnitude of the acceleration of the masses.
I found the acceleration
4.91 m/s^2


What is the tension in the string?
is what I am having trouble with.
 
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You need to show some work. What have you done?
 
Cyclovenom said:
You need to show some work. What have you done?


i calculated the accel by using
fk=uk*m*g*cos(theta) on each of the two blocks. adding them then using m*g*sin(theta)-fk=m*a
fk values:
m1 = 3.84
m2 = 2.218

as for tension, i tried to do
f=ma
f=(2)*accel which doesn't work.

m*g (since its kinda hanging)
2*9.8
2*9.8cos(41) (since its at angle and not straight down)
2*9.8sin(41) (same as above but dif angle)
 
On m1 block you got the tension force, the gravitational force, and the friction force acting!

Applying Newton's 2nd Law

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^{n} \vec{F}_{i} = m \vec{a}[/tex]

On m1

[tex]\vec{T} + m_{1} \vec{g} + \vec{F}_{friction}_{1} = m_{1} \vec{a}[/tex]

On m2

[tex]\vec{T} + m_{2} \vec{g} + \vec{F}_{friction}_{2} = m_{2} \vec{a}[/tex]
 
[tex]\vec{T}[/tex] = Tension?
 
basically, you have the scalar equations for each body

For the m1

[tex]\sum F_{x} = T - \mu m_{1}g \cos \theta + m_{1} g \sin \theta = m_{1} a[/tex]

For the m2

[tex]\sum F_{x} = m_{2} g \sin \theta - T - \mu m_{2}g \cos \theta = m_{2} a[/tex]
 

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