Earthquake in Asia: Over 19,000 Killed; International Aid Pours In

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The discussion revolves around the international response to a devastating earthquake in Pakistan, which has resulted in a significant death toll and prompted appeals for aid. Participants share information about the amounts pledged by various countries and engage in a broader conversation about international aid dynamics and perceptions of the United States.

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Main Points Raised

  • Pakistan's president has requested international assistance, emphasizing the country's inability to manage the aftermath alone.
  • Several countries have pledged varying amounts of aid, including the US, which initially offered $100,000 but was later reported to have increased its commitment to $50 million.
  • Some participants compare the aid given by Pakistan and India to the US during Hurricane Katrina, noting the amounts were $1 million and $5 million, respectively.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived discrepancy in aid contributions relative to the GDP and population of the countries involved.
  • Participants express differing views on global perceptions of the US, with some arguing that people recognize both its positive and negative aspects, while others challenge this notion and seek evidence for such claims.
  • One participant mentions Kuwait's significant aid contribution of $100 million, highlighting the varying levels of international support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the perceptions of the US and the adequacy of its aid response. There is no clear consensus on the motivations behind international aid or the comparative analysis of contributions from different countries.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the motivations for aid and the implications of the amounts pledged, which may depend on differing definitions of "adequate" support and the context of international relations.

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Pakistan's president has appealed for international help, saying his country cannot deal with the aftermath of the massive earthquake on its own.

At least 19,000 people are thought to have been killed in Pakistan, and it is feared the toll could rise much higher.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4324534.stm

EU: $3.6m
Australia: $380,000
UK: $177,000 and 60-strong team
US: $100,000
China: 49 rescuers, dogs, 17 tons of equipment
Japan: 50 rescue workers
Russia: 30 rescuers, sniffer dogs, special equipment
Germany: $60,000

Come on Bush! $100,000 from the biggest ecconomy in the world. I hope this is just the tip of the icebergh as international aid goes...
 
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Anyone want to guess how much Pakistan and India gave the US in response to Katrina ?

<<$1 million and $5 milion, respectively. [/color] >>

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3241
 
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Canada offered 300 thousand
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20051009/ca_pr_on_na/south_asia_quake_cda_2
 
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The US amount was, last I heard, significantly raised above the initial 100.000.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this?

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Ah, yes; US offers aid of various types up to the worth of 50 million dollars.
[PLAIN]http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/10/quake.us.response/index.html[/URL]
 
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The US amount was, last I heard, significantly raised above the initial 100.000.
Perhaps I'm wrong on this?

EDIT:
Ah, yes; US offers aid of various types up to the worth of 50 million dollars.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/10/qua...nse/index.html

Good... well getting there at least
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Anyone want to guess how much Pakistan and India gave the US in response to Katrina ?

<<$1 million and $5 milion, respectively. [/color] >>

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3241

So Pakistan gave the US $1 million for Katrina, plus doctors and supplies.

As of this morning, the US gave Pakistan $50 million, plus they lent 8 helicopters.

I wonder what the discrepancy is when adjusted for population and GDP.
 
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Anttech said:
Good... well getting there at least

So, how much to you require from the evil US superpower? :bugeye:
 
People throughout the world recognize that the US has good points and bad points. People throughout the world would like to see the bad points diminish and the good points blossom.
 
pattylou said:
People throughout the world would like to see the bad points diminish and the good points blossom.

I don't believe that is true at all. Show me the proof that everyone in the world wants to see the good points blossom and the bad points diminished.
 
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Townsend said:
I don't believe that is true at all. Show me the proof that everyone in the world wants to see the good points blossom and the bad points diminished.

He's got a point. I see in these forums that people want to see the bad points exploited more than anything else.
 
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TRCSF said:
So Pakistan gave the US $1 million for Katrina, plus doctors and supplies.

As of this morning, the US gave Pakistan $50 million, plus they lent 8 helicopters.

I wonder what the discrepancy is when adjusted for population and GDP.
The US GDP is about 35 times that of Pakistan (approx 12 trillion vs 350 billion).
 
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Townsend said:
I don't believe that is true at all. Show me the proof that everyone in the world wants to see the good points blossom and the bad points diminished.
I didn't mean everybody. I meant you can find people everywhere ("throughout the world") that recognize the good and the bad in America; the point was that there was nothing inconsistent in Anttech's comment, at all.
 
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hmm kuwait has given has $100m :bugeyes:
 
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pattylou said:
I didn't mean everybody. I meant you can find people everywhere ("throughout the world") that recognize the good and the bad in America; the point was that there was nothing inconsistent in Anttech's comment, at all.

And I don't believe that is true. I think it is just an appeal to emotion so please show me some proof.