How Can I Calculate the Kinetic Friction Between Plastic and Cardboard?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic friction between plastic wheels and a cardboard surface, specifically in the context of a toy truck moving at a constant velocity. The original poster is trying to understand the relationship between velocity and force in this scenario.

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  • Participants explore the conversion of velocity to force, questioning the validity of this approach. There are inquiries about the nature of the truck's movement and the conditions affecting friction, such as whether the wheels are rolling or slipping.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the differences between velocity and force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of constant velocity and the types of friction that may apply. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the role of kinetic versus static friction.

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There is a lack of specific information regarding the coefficient of kinetic friction for the materials in question, and participants note the importance of knowing the dimensions of the tire in contact with the ground. The original poster is also navigating the constraints of homework rules that may limit the information they can access.

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Working out some simple physics and I can't figure out how to convert velocity to Newtons for force..

A six pound (2.72kg) tonka truck is moving across a cardboard bridge at a constant velocity of .067m/s (estimated). I tried looking for a while but was unable to find the kinetic friction of plastic wheels on cardboard.

Using Newton's second law, I was able to make this equation: F-Fk=ma, so F = ma+Fk. Fk is muK*Fn, so the final equation is: F=ma+muK*fn. Because there is no movement in the Y direction, fn would be the weight, and in this case 26.7n. there is no acceleration, so would ma equal zero?

Is there any way to find the kinetic friction between plastic and cardboard?

Thanks guys!
 
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NutriGrainKiller said:
Working out some simple physics and I can't figure out how to convert velocity to Newtons for force..
Not surprising, since you can't "convert" velocities into forces in the first place.
What do you mean by this?
 
arildno said:
Not surprising, since you can't "convert" velocities into forces in the first place.
What do you mean by this?

Well I think I answered that in my initial post, however there are more questions further down
 
What exactly are you trying to figure out? Is the truck moving at constant velocity? Are the wheels rolling?
 
It is really something you'd have to look up and you'd have to know the exact dimensions of what the tire is that is actually touching the ground.

Also, as arildno pointed out, velocity and force are two different things. It is like comparing temperature to density.
 
NutriGrainKiller said:
Well I think I answered that in my initial post, however there are more questions further down
You can't convert a velocity into a force! Period.
 
Doc Al said:
What exactly are you trying to figure out? Is the truck moving at constant velocity? Are the wheels rolling?

yes, slowly, about .067m/s

i figure i can find out the force with the coeffecient of kinetic friction between cardboard and plastic wheels, any way i can do this?
 
Realize that if the car is moving at constant velocity, the net force is zero. Also, if the wheels are rolling (not slipping) then kinetic friction will not apply. And the static friction will be zero as well.
 
From the power output of the motor that's driving the truck (and the velocity) you can find the driving force, using P = Fv
 

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