What is the final temperature of water

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to heat transfer in thermodynamics, specifically calculating the final temperature of water after absorbing energy and determining the molar heat of vaporization of bromine. The scope includes theoretical applications of heat energy formulas and problem-solving strategies in a homework context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving 335 g of water absorbing 2.66 kJ of energy and seeks to determine the final temperature, questioning the correct formulation of the heat transfer equation.
  • Another participant provides the relevant heat energy formulas, Q = m*C*T and Q = m*L, and emphasizes the importance of unit consistency when solving the first problem.
  • A third participant questions the significance of the temperature (332 K) in the second problem regarding bromine, suggesting that the boiling point may need to be considered before calculating the heat released during condensation.
  • A later reply discusses the assumption that the given temperature is the boiling point of bromine and notes that if the gas must cool before condensing, additional information about the specific heat of bromine gas would be necessary.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the boiling point of bromine, indicating it is approximately 331 K, suggesting that the heat loss before condensation may be negligible.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of the temperature in the bromine problem and whether additional calculations are necessary. There is no consensus on the approach to the second problem, as some participants assume the temperature is the boiling point while others suggest further considerations are needed.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for unit conversions and the potential complexity of the bromine problem, indicating that assumptions about boiling points and specific heats may affect the calculations.

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I got achem test tomororw and 2 questions didn't have asnwers for them so i want to make sure of them.

1) If 335 g of water at 24.5 degrees celsius absorbed 2.66 kJ of energy, what is the final temperature of water

*2.66 = 335 * 4.184 * t + 24.5 (or 24.5 - t)? don't know

and


2)7.28 kJ of heat is released when 40.9 g of Br2 (bormine) vapour at 332 K condense to a liquid. What is the molar heat of vaporization of Br2.


i just want to make sure i got the right asnwers, cause these 2 don't have asnwers in our test revision sheet. thanks
 
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For these two problems you need to remember two of the heat energy formulas,
Q = m*C*T
And
Q = m*L
Where Q is the heat energy, m is the mass, C is the specific heat, T is the change in temperature, and L is the Latent heat [of vaporization].

For your first problem, you need to remember to keep the units on your energy straight, or the prefixes atleast.
2.66 kJ of energy are absorbed, but the specific heat your using for water is 4.184 J/g*degree C
So you need to convert one or the other to get the right answer.
So then just solve for the change in temperature.
2660 J = 335 g * 4.184 J/gC * T

For your second problem,
You know the energy given off and the mass of the bromine giving it off, so just solve for the latent heat.
7280 J = 40.9 g * L
 
god bless u mr. jeffey
for the 2nd prob tho, is the 332K insignifcant
dont i have to find out the heat it takes to get to its vap. piont first.
 
Not knowing the boiling point of bromine, I just assumed the temperature given was the boiling point and left it at that.
However, if it is not and the gas must first cool down and then condense, it becomes a multipart problem, and you then also need to know the specific heat of bromine gas.

Upon further inspection,
the boiling point of Br2 is 136 degrees F (331 K or thereabouts), so it is almost insignificant the amount of heat it looses before it condenses.
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/B3905.htm
 

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