What are some long-term dormant conflicts in history?

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The discussion revolves around long-term dormant conflicts in history, with a focus on humorous or unusual examples of wars or disputes that have persisted for extended periods without resolution. Participants share anecdotes and seek additional instances of such conflicts.

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  • One participant mentions the case of Berwick-upon-Tweed, which was technically at war with Russia for 113 years due to a lack of a peace treaty after the Crimean War.
  • Another participant expresses interest in finding other long-term dormant conflicts but does not provide examples.
  • Several participants share humorous reactions and emotional responses to the initial post, indicating a light-hearted tone in the discussion.
  • A participant references World War II Japanese soldiers who remained unaware of the war's conclusion, suggesting this as another example of a long-dormant conflict.
  • Another participant questions the significance of Berwick's mention in the declaration of war, seeking clarification on its historical context.
  • A participant notes that Berwick's unique status stems from its historical changes in sovereignty between England and Scotland.
  • One participant shares a claim about World War II not officially ending until 1990 due to the division of Germany, although they express uncertainty about the accuracy of this information.

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Participants generally share a humorous and light-hearted engagement with the topic, but there is no consensus on additional examples of long-term dormant conflicts, and some claims remain unverified or contested.

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Some claims made by participants lack supporting evidence, and there are unresolved questions regarding the historical context of Berwick-upon-Tweed and the status of treaties related to World War II.

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A bit of light relief...

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/berwick/berwickupontweed/

"When Queen Victoria signed the declaration of war on Russia in 1853, she did so in the name of "Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, Ireland, Berwick-upon-Tweed and the British Dominions beyond the sea." But Berwick was not mentioned in the Treaty of Paris that concluded the Crimean War in 1856, leaving the town technically still at war with Russia.

A peace treaty was only finally signed by a Russian diplomat and the then Mayor of Berwick in 1966. As the mayor said at the time: "You can tell the Russian people that they can now sleep peacefully in their beds". "

That makes Berwick and Russia at war for 113 years. Anyone know of any other long-term, long dormant spats?
 
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El Hombre Invisible said:
Anyone know of any other long-term, long dormant spats?
Not me, but that's a funny story. :smile: (Don't want you to feel invisible.)
 
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I care too! That was funny.
 
Evo said:
I care too! That was funny.
[sniff] To be cared for by such lovely people... But you've opened the floodgate of years of repressed emoticons now: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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Haha, very funny!

The only other things like this I can think of are the WW2 Japanese soldiers that spent years hiding in jungles, unaware the war was over. Here is one instance of this:
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/15545_japanese.html

I'm sure I've heard similar stories about treaties not being signed, but I can't remember any countries, wars or dates.
 
matthyaouw said:
Haha, very funny!
The only other things like this I can think of are the WW2 Japanese soldiers that spent years hiding in jungles, unaware the war was over. Here is one instance of this:
http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/363/15545_japanese.html
I'm sure I've heard similar stories about treaties not being signed, but I can't remember any countries, wars or dates.
Yeah, I remember this. It's happened a couple of times. Can you imagine after sixty years of surviving in the jungle what it would be like to go home to Japan now? You'd probably want to go back to the jungle.
 
Is there any reason why she signed that way? Why highlight Berwick?
 
Wikipedia often has an answer

Since Berwick has had the distinction of having changed hands between the English and the Scots so many times in its history, it was traditionally regarded as a special, separate entity, and various proclamations promulgated before 1885 referred to "England, Scotland and the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwick-upon-Tweed
 
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Yes, it was no doubt just in case it changed hands an odd number of times after war was declared. I think people IN Berwick think they are actually a country. A lot of people even now couldn't have told you whether it is in Scotland or England.
 
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I just heard (though don't nessecarily believe) that oficially ww2 didn't end 'til 1990, as the treaty referred to the country of Germany, which at the time had split into East Germany and West Germany, so it wasn't until the country was re-unified that the treaty became valid.
Not been able to find anything to back it up unfortunately, but it amused me none the less.