Lim f(0,y). y->0. L'H rule needed, did i do it right?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a function f(x,y) as y approaches 0, specifically focusing on the expression f(0,y) = (sin^2(y))/(y^2) and the application of L'Hôpital's rule. Participants are exploring the correctness of their approaches and interpretations of the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hôpital's rule, with some expressing uncertainty about its necessity. There are questions about the limit of sin^2(y)/y^2 and whether it simplifies to 1. Differentiation methods and rules are also debated, particularly regarding the correct application of the chain rule or product rule.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the use of L'Hôpital's rule and the limit evaluation. Some participants suggest that L'Hôpital's rule may not be necessary, while others express confusion about their previous calculus knowledge. Guidance has been offered regarding the limits of sin(y)/y and the need for proof in certain parts of the problem.

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Participants mention constraints related to their calculus background and the professor's instructions regarding the use of L'Hôpital's rule. There is also a reference to a potential epsilon-delta argument that has not been fully explored in the discussion.

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Hello everyone. I think i did this right but i want to make sure. Let f(x,y) = (x^2+sin^2(y))/(2x^2+y^2); I want to find the limit as y ->0;
Find lim y->0 f(0,y).
Here is my work:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/194/lastscan4zi.jpg

Also the 2nd part to this problem is the following, and here is my work:
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/790806/0/nouser_790/T0_-1_790806.jpg
Do you think that is correct? thanks.
 
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You seem to have misunderstood L'Hospitals rule.

L'Hospitals rule states that [itex]\lim \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \lim \frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}[/itex] if [itex]\lim f(x)[/itex] and [itex]\lim g(x)[/itex] are both zero or ±[itex]\infty[/itex]. L'Hospitals rule isn't necessary. Just use the standard limit for [itex]\frac{sin(x)}{x}[/itex]
 
I havn't had calc I in awhile, my professor said L'Hopsitals rule is needed...hm...
so the sin^2(y)/y^2 is just really 1 then?
 
For the first one you differentiated incorrectly... use the chain rule or product rule for the numerator.. (Whatever you feel more comfortable with)
The answer is indeed 1, yes.
No clue about the second one... I'm no epsilon-delta guy. :D
 
You could use L'Hopital's rule but you don't need to.
[tex]f(0,y)= \frac{sin^2(y)}{y^2}= \frac{sin(y)}{y}\frac{sin(y)}{y}[/tex] and you should know the limit of those!
As for your second question, your answer to part (c) simply asserts what you want to show with no proof. I take it that there was a part (a) that asked you to show that [tex]lim_{x->0}f(x,0)= \frac{1}{2}[/tex]. Can you show that given some [tex]\epsilon[/tex]> 0 and any [tex]\delta[/tex]> 0 there a point (x,0) closer to (0,0) [tex]\delta[/tex] such that f(x,0) is closer to 1/2 than [tex]\epsilon[/tex]- and another point (0,y) closer to (0,0) than [tex]\delta[/tex] such that f(0,y) is closer than 1 than [tex]\epsilon[/tex] and so there no single number that both are close to?
 
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This is what i ended up getting...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6888/lastscan7rp.jpg
look any better?
 
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