Partial derivatives, why is the fy this?

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The discussion centers on calculating the first partial derivative of the function f(x,y,z,t) = xyz²*tan(yt). The correct expression for the partial derivative with respect to y, denoted as fy, is fy = xz²*sec²(yt) + txyz²*sec²(yt). Participants emphasize the necessity of applying both the product rule and the chain rule when differentiating, particularly when multiple variables are involved. Misunderstandings arise regarding the treatment of variables as constants during differentiation.

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Hello everyone,i had a question..i have the following problem, I'm suppose to find the first partial derivatives:
f(x,y,z,t) = xyz^2*tan(yt);
I got all the partial derivaties right but the fy, they get:
fy = xyz^2*sec^2(yt);
when i do it, i get:
fy = xz^2*sec^2(yt)*t = txz^2*sec^2(yt);
Arn't u suppose to think x,z and t are all constants? if that's the case, when u use the chain rule inside the sec^2(yt), d/dt(yt) = t isn't it?
 
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Hmm, I actually don't agree with either of those answers.

If all the variables are independent, you have to consider x,z and t as constants when deriving with respect to y, that's correct. But you have to use the product rule as well, there's a y in "xyz^2" and again one in the tangent...
 
mr_coffee said:
Hello everyone,i had a question..i have the following problem, I'm suppose to find the first partial derivatives:
f(x,y,z,t) = xyz^2*tan(yt);
I got all the partial derivaties right but the fy, they get:
fy = xyz^2*sec^2(yt);
If f really is as you write it, that's clearly wrong.
when i do it, i get:
fy = xz^2*sec^2(yt)*t = txz^2*sec^2(yt);
But that's also clearly wrong!
Arn't u suppose to think x,z and t are all constants? if that's the case, when u use the chain rule inside the sec^2(yt), d/dt(yt) = t isn't it?
Yes, doing a partial derivative, you treat all other variables as constants. But in addition to using the chain rule, you also have to use the product rule!

fy= xz2tan(yt)+ txyz2sec2(yt)
 

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