Does |A| = k When a is a Complex Number and k is a Positive Integer?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the cardinality of the set of complex numbers \( A \) that satisfy the equation \( a^k = 1 \) is equal to \( k \), where \( a \) is a complex number and \( k \) is a positive integer. The scope includes theoretical aspects of complex numbers, roots of unity, and properties of cyclic groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks if the set \( A = \{a | a^k = 1\} \) has a cardinality of \( k \) under the given conditions.
  • Another participant references the concept of roots of unity, noting that there are \( k \) \( k \)th roots of unity.
  • A participant suggests that if \( k \) is the smallest integer greater than 1 for which the statement holds, then the cardinality is indeed \( k \), mentioning the existence of a cyclic group isomorphic to the \( k \)th roots of unity.
  • One participant questions whether the statement holds for any \( a^k = x \), indicating uncertainty about the nature of \( x \) as a root of unity.
  • Another participant clarifies that not every \( x \) is a root of unity, providing the example of 2, which has infinite order in \( \mathbb{C} \), and discusses the conditions under which a group can be cyclic.
  • A participant inquires about the existence of \( k \) \( k \)th roots of a real number \( x \).
  • One response affirms that there are \( k \) complex \( k \)th roots of a non-zero number, detailing the behavior of roots for positive and negative reals based on the parity of \( k \).
  • Another participant elaborates on the representation of complex numbers and the derivation of solutions for \( z^k = a \), discussing the distinct solutions in terms of angles and their periodicity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which the cardinality of the set \( A \) equals \( k \). While some agree on the existence of \( k \) roots of unity, others raise questions about the nature of \( x \) and the conditions for cyclic groups, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the nature of \( x \) and the definitions of roots of unity. The discussion also touches on the conditions for cyclic groups and the implications of Lagrange's theorem, which are not fully resolved.

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if
[tex]a^k =1[/tex]
and
[tex]a \in \mathbb{C}[/tex]
[tex]k \in Z^+[/tex]
and for some k
[tex]A = \{a|a^k = 1\}[/tex]
does
[tex]|A| = k[/tex]
?

edited: becasue the real numbers are a subset of the complex numbers
 
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I googled the roots of unity and it appears that there are k kth roots of unity:


http://www.jimloy.com/algebra/roots.htm
 
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If k is the smallest such integer greater than 1 such that the statement is true, then yes. We can find a cyclic group isomorphic to the kth roots of unity, which takes a lot of typing, but I can provide if you want it.
 
And you posted while I was typing. Oops.
 
Does this hold true for any ak = x?
 
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, so I apologise if I don't answer the question. Not every x is a root of unity. For example, the element 2 is of infinite order in C. So therefore we cannot find a k (not equal to 0) in the integers such that 2k = 1.
The group must be of finite order to be cyclic. But even this is not enough to guarantee that the group is cyclic. However, if the order of the group is prime, the group is cyclic. This is a consequence of Lagrange's theorem.
The fuss I am making about cyclic groups is because of the guaranteed existence of group isomorphisms to the kth roots of unity.
 
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What I mean are there k kth roots of x, where x is a real number?
 
Yes, assuming that the number is not zero, there a k complex kth roots of a number. (I think this result is due to Descartes.)

If you restrict yourself to the positive reals, then there are two roots if k is even, and one if k is odd.

For the negative reals, there is one root on even powers, and no roots on odd powers.

Here's an explanation.

You're probably familiar with complex numbers written as
[tex]x+iy[/tex]
with x and y real but you should be able to see that they can also be written as
[tex]r * (cos \theta + i sin \theta)[/tex]
where
[tex]r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}[/tex]
and
[tex]\theta=tan^{-1}\frac{x}{y}[/tex].

if you apply Euler's forumula, you get that
[tex]r * (cos \theta + i sin \theta)[/tex]
is equivalent to
[tex]r * e^{i\theta}[/tex]

Now, let's say we have two complex numbers:
[tex]z_1=r_1 * e^{i\theta_1}[/tex]
and
[tex]z_2=r_2 * e^{i\theta_2}[/tex]
then
[tex]z_1*z_2=r_1*r_2 * e^{i(\theta_1+\theta_2)}[/tex]
and
[tex]z^n=r^n*e^{in\theta}[/tex]

Now, let's look at your question, given k, and a, how many distinct z are there such that
[tex]z^k={r_z}^k*e^{ik\theta_z}=a=r_a*e^{\theta_a}[/tex]
I'm not going to get into the proof that there is only one solution for [tex]r_z[/tex], or that it exists, here.

Now, since [tex]e^{i\theta}=e^{i(\theta+2n\pi)}[/tex]
there are k solutions for [tex]\theta_z[/tex] that correspond to the solutions to
[tex]\theta_z*k=\theta_a+2\pi*n[/tex]
where [tex]n[/tex] ranges over the integers from zero to k-1.
 

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