Solving for Minimum Point of Curve C: x2 + 2x + 4

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The problem involves finding the minimum point of the curve defined by the equation y = x² + 2x + 4. Participants are tasked with expressing the quadratic in vertex form and identifying the coordinates of the minimum point.

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  • The original poster attempts to complete the square to rewrite the quadratic equation. Some participants question the accuracy of the transformation and the resulting expression. Others suggest checking the final equation for correctness and exploring the implications of the vertex form.

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The discussion has progressed with some participants providing guidance on completing the square and verifying the results. There is acknowledgment of a potential misunderstanding in the transformation process, and participants are exploring the implications of the minimum value derived from the vertex form.

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I'm a bit stuck on this question:
the curve C has the equation y=x2 + 2x + 4
a) Express x2 +2x + 4 in the form a(x+b)2 + c and hence the coordinates of the minimum point C.
This is what I've done:
x2 +2x +4 = a(x+b)2+c
a(x+b)(x-b) + c = x2+2x+4
a(x2 + xb+ xb +b2) + c = x2+2x+4
ax2 + 2abx + ab2 + c = x2 +2x+4
Therefore: a= 1, 2ab= 2, ab= 1, b= 1, ab2 + c= 4
1+c = 4
c= 3
(x=0) y= 4
y= 1(x+1)2+ 2
..and that's all I've got so far. Please let me know if it's all wrong and how do i go about getting the minimum point from here.
Thanks!
 
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You are almost there. Take a look at your final equation ([itex]y= 1(x+1)^2+ 2[/itex]). What value of x will make y the smallest it can possibly be?
 
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I have a small problem with that. If y= (x+1)2+ 2 then
y= x2+ 2x+ 1+ 2= x2+ 2x+ 3 which doesn't appear to be what you started with!
 
sorry, that would be me unable to read my own scribbled notes! it's meant to be a 3.
 
Standard (and easier way) of completing the square toget a(x+b)2 + c is

1x2 +2x +4 = 1 (x2 +2 x + 1) + 3 =
(x + 1)2 + 3.

Graphing (especially by hand) would also give a good idea of the minimum.

Looking into an algebra or precalculus textbook would work too.
 
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Since you have:
A2 ≥ 0.
So (x + 1)2 ≥ 0.
Adding 3 to both sides gives:
(x + 1)2 + 3 ≥ 3.
So what's the smallest value y can have, what x makes y smallest?
Viet Dao,
 
right, so..the minimum point is (-1,3)?
 
Yes, that's correct. If x=-1, y= 02+ 3= 3. If x is any number other than -1, x+ 1 is not 0 so (x+1)2 is positive and (x+1)2+ 3 is greater than 3.
 

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