Collisions of large bodies starting at stationary positions

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The discussion revolves around calculating the collision point of two stationary bodies of different masses that start some distance apart. The focus includes theoretical aspects of gravitational attraction and the application of mathematical concepts, particularly in relation to Newton's gravity formula and the concept of barycenter.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in calculating the collision point of two stationary bodies using Newton's gravity formula and expresses interest in understanding the acceleration of acceleration as they approach each other.
  • Another participant suggests that knowledge of calculus and differential equations would simplify the problem significantly.
  • A third participant states that the collision point can be determined by finding the barycenter of the two bodies, providing a formula to calculate the distance from one mass to the barycenter.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude but also feelings of foolishness for not knowing the barycenter concept initially.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of using the barycenter to determine the collision point, but there is no consensus on the methods or mathematical approaches to reach that conclusion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in calculating gravitational forces and accelerations over time, nor does it clarify the assumptions necessary for applying the barycenter formula.

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I got up this morning, and decided I was going to try to calculate this. So here is what I asked.

Given 2 stationary bodies, starting some distance apart, of different mass, where would they collide in respect to one another?

I tried using Newton's gravity formula to calculate the force of attraction every few intervals of distance, and then graph the acceleration. But I figured, if I could find out how to calculate the acceleration of acceleration, it would make my calculations much simpler. (As in, as they accelerate toward each other, the force increases, so they accelerate even greater.)

I was wondering if anyone could help me with this.


Btw, this is my first post in these forums, so I hope this is appropriate. Excuse me if it isn't.
 
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Hi Silverious,

welcome to the forums!

Do you know calculus and differential equations?

If you do, the problem becomes more or less trivial.
 
If you are just interested in where compared to their respective starting positions the two bodies will collide, that is easy, they will collide at their barycenter. (their Common center of gravity).

Two find the barycenter, you can use the formula:

[tex]D_{2}= D_{1}\frac{M_{1}}{M_{1}+M_{2}}[/tex]

This will give the distance from M1 to the barycenter.

D1 is the initial distance between the two masses
 
Wow, thanks. I feel kind of foolish. But thanks anyways.
 

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