Is Philosophy Founded on Absurdity?

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The discussion revolves around the philosophical implications of absurdity, particularly in relation to nominalism and realism. Participants explore the nature of philosophical arguments and the validity of various concepts within these frameworks, referencing satire and historical philosophical figures.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the validity of distinguishing between abstract concepts like "dragon" and concrete dates like "July the 11th."
  • There is a mention of satire in modern philosophies, particularly regarding the works of Rorty, prompting inquiries into how satire functions in philosophical discourse.
  • One participant expresses a personal view that nominalism leads to the denial of the existence of various abstract entities, including numbers and properties, suggesting a radical stance on the nature of reality.
  • Another participant draws a parallel between naming a musical note and naming a physical object, questioning the implications of such classifications on our understanding of reality.
  • A claim is made that the foundations of logic and philosophy are inherently absurd, referencing historical philosophical conflicts and the role of sarcasm in the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of absurdity in philosophy, with some supporting the idea that philosophical foundations are absurd while others challenge or seek clarification on these claims. No consensus is reached regarding the implications of nominalism and realism.

Contextual Notes

Participants' arguments rely on various interpretations of philosophical concepts, and there are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of nominalism and realism. The discussion also touches on personal anecdotes that may influence perspectives.

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Has anyone seen http://philrsss.anu.edu.au/~henry/RRnom.html ? Any comments?
 
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Yeah, why is a "dragon" less dubious than "July the 11th"?
 
It's a satire on some modern philsophies (note the mention of Rorty), which have been discussed not to long ago on PF Philosophy.
 
do you know this chap? seems fascinating *stares off dreamily into space*, i was just wondering as i am in canberra...




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...and need to get married to be eligible for youth allowance!

actually it was interesting from a philosophical point of view, how is it a satire? ooh, i missed something...

Typical things which nominalists snort at the existence of are numbers, properties, states of affairs, the note C-sharp, propositions, classes, sets, and distances. Some take the further step of denying the existence of space and time. I certainly do.

isn't calling a certain wavelength of vibration a C sharp just like calling a certain 'assembly' of cells a tree? i spose saying C sharp describes the properties of something real and tangible, like saying green describes one property of the real and tangible tree? am i on the right track? ah it's nice to disprove your own musings.

p.S: i was kidding about the getting married thing, well, it's true about the youth allowance... but yes, kidding... mmm
 
Sarcasm is never pretty. Its existence around this issue highlights the absurdity of assuming intellectual stances such as nominalism and realism. Plato with his realistic ethics, burned all of Democritus' books while today Rorty criticizes realists. The simple truth is all of logic and philosophy is founded upon absurdity.

Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee,
Resolved to have a battle,
For Tweedle-Dum said Tweedle-Dee,
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew by a monstrous crow,
As big as a tar barrel,
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot the battle.
 

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