Accelerating neutrons, production of ultracold neutrons

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The discussion revolves around the acceleration of neutrons and the production of ultracold neutrons, exploring theoretical and practical aspects of these topics within nuclear physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how neutrons can be accelerated given their lack of charge, with suggestions that magnetic fields might be used.
  • Others argue that neutrons are not typically accelerated; instead, they can be produced with varying energies using a spallation source, which involves colliding protons with a neutron-rich target.
  • There is a discussion about the materials used to slow down neutrons, particularly the preference for deuterium over other materials, with some participants noting its lower neutron absorption cross-section.
  • Some participants propose that while it is theoretically possible to accelerate neutrons using strong magnetic fields or photon streams, current technology does not support practical neutron accelerators.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of different materials for slowing down neutrons, with emphasis on the mass similarity between neutrons and hydrogen or deuterium nuclei.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of accelerating neutrons, with some asserting it is not done while others suggest theoretical possibilities. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical methods for neutron acceleration and the optimal materials for producing ultracold neutrons.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of acceleration and the unresolved nature of the methods for producing ultracold neutrons. The discussion also highlights the complexity of neutron interactions with various materials.

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Hi to all,

I have two questions concerning neutrons.
How is it possible to accelerate neutrons? Since they have no charge, it shouldn't be possible by applying an electric field. I read somewhere that it should work by using a magnetic field. Can somebody explain how that is working? I mean, how would one construct a "neutron accelerator"?

The second question deals with ultracold neutrons. When fast neutrons from a nuclear reaction or similar emerge, one has to slow them down. I read that normally, one sends them through liquid deuterium. Why is deuterium chosen? Are there other materials or processes which can yield ultracold neutrons?

I am just starting with nuclear physics so please bear with me and my dumb questions...

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Emil
 
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Thank you ZapperZ,

I learned a lot from the thread you proposed. But one question still remains, the acceleration of neutrons. In the thread it was just said that neutrons that emerge from a nuclear reaction have a certain kinetic energy. Isn't it possible to further increase it? I mean with charged particles you just use an accelerator operating with electric fields. This won't work for neutrons. So how can they be accelerated?

Emil
 
emil2 said:
Thank you ZapperZ,
I learned a lot from the thread you proposed. But one question still remains, the acceleration of neutrons. In the thread it was just said that neutrons that emerge from a nuclear reaction have a certain kinetic energy. Isn't it possible to further increase it? I mean with charged particles you just use an accelerator operating with electric fields. This won't work for neutrons. So how can they be accelerated?
Emil

You don't! Unless you have some sources that indicate that this has been done?

Zz.
 
One doesn't accelerate neutrons instead if you want neutrons of different energies you can make them using a spallation source. Take a proton beam and smack it into a neutron rich target and the reaction will create a ton of neutrons+other crap. Using time of flight methods one can do experiments with neutrons of different energy.

Obviously if one is going to slow down neutrons one needs a material where neutron capture isn't significant. But I'm not entirely sure why deterium is the preferred material. But I'm sure Golub's book on ultra cold neutrons could probably tell you.
 
Steven S said:
One doesn't accelerate neutrons instead if you want neutrons of different energies you can make them using a spallation source. Take a proton beam and smack it into a neutron rich target and the reaction will create a ton of neutrons+other crap. Using time of flight methods one can do experiments with neutrons of different energy.
Obviously if one is going to slow down neutrons one needs a material where neutron capture isn't significant. But I'm not entirely sure why deterium is the preferred material. But I'm sure Golub's book on ultra cold neutrons could probably tell you.

One way to slow down something is to make it collide - but not collide with anything. If a particle collide with another particle of roughly the same mass, this is the most effective means of slowing that first particle. If it collides with something significantly more massive, all that will happen is that it changes momentum without changing its KE.

Thus, water (as in a typical fission reactor) and D are the most effective medium to slow down neutrons, because each of these contains particles (H and D) that has almost the same mass as the neutron.

Zz.
 
Also, if I'm not mistaken, deuterium has a much smaller absorption cross-section for neutrons than regular hydrogen - it's easier for H to become D than for D to become T (that's why heavy water is preferred to aquafina).
 
It is theoretically possible to accelerate neutrons. They have a magnetic moment and can be accelerated by a magnetic field with a (very!) strong gradient.
 
Tide said:
It is theoretically possible to accelerate neutrons. They have a magnetic moment and can be accelerated by a magnetic field with a (very!) strong gradient.

But I think if we want to go to that extreme, I can also say that a neutron (or any elementary particle for that matter) can also be accelerated by a stream of photons - and this isn't too far off since laser acceleration scheme has been shown to work in electron accelerators. However, it is accurate to say that we do not do this, and can't do it, to neutrons with the current technology. There are no neutron accelerators. Injectors, yes, but not accelerators.

Zz.
 

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