Inverse of y = [(e^x)-3]/[(e^x)+1]

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the function y = [(e^x)-3]/[(e^x)+1]. Participants are exploring the steps involved in inverting the function and questioning the validity of certain transformations and properties of logarithms and exponentials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt to take the natural logarithm of both sides and manipulate the equation. There are questions about the correctness of the transformations made, particularly regarding the properties of logarithms. Some suggest solving for e^x first before taking the logarithm.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the approach to finding the inverse. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to understand logarithmic properties and the correct steps to take in solving for e^x before applying logarithms. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's method or the teacher's answer.

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Participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the properties of logarithms and the need for clarity in the steps taken to find the inverse. There are also indications of confusion over the teacher's answer and the original poster's representation of it.

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I was wondering if anyone could help me with some homework.
I have the equation y = [(e^x)-3]/[(e^x)+1] and need to find its inverse.
I take the natural ln of both sides and get :
lny = (x-3)/(x+1)
Then I multiple the denominator to the other side and get
lny(x+1) = x -3
Then i just add three to both sides and switch the x and y's to get the inverse
y = lnx (x+1) +3

My teacher got the answer:
x = ln [ (3+x)/(1-x)]

How??
 
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1.Why do you think [itex]ln(\frac{e^{x}-3}{e^{x}+1})=\frac{x-3}{x+1}[/itex]?

It is totally wrong, you know.

2.Also, you have miswritten your teacher's answer.

3. In order to invert this properly, solve first for [itex]e^{x}[/itex], then take the logarithm.
 
It might be good for you to review some basic properties of logorithms and exponetials at this point, as they are highly important in higher math.
 
My teachers answer is written as :
inverse function (x) = ln [(3+x)/(1-x)]

Sorry if I made a mistake in writing it the first time, or maybe the teacher has made an error. Could you show me what I'm supposed to get and how to come to that answer?

Oh and does the ln[ (e^x)-3 / (e^x) + 1] actually equal:
x -ln3 / x + ln1
?
 
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It is a very bad idea to even try to solve equations like
[tex]y= \frac{e^x-3}{e^x+1}[/tex] if you don't know the basic "laws of logarithms" and your last question indicates that you don't. As you were told before, first solve for ex.

[tex]y= \frac{e^x-3}{e^x+1}[/tex] so, multiplying on both sides by ex+ 1,
[tex](e^x+1)y= e^x- 3[/tex] or
[tex]e^xy+ y= e^x- 3[/tex] so
[tex]e^xy- e^x= -y- 3[/tex]
[tex]e^x(y- 1)= -y-3[/tex]
[tex]e^x= \frac{y+3}{1-y}[/tex]
Finally, [tex]x= ln\left(\frac{y+3}{1-y}\right)[/tex]
as long as -3< y< 1.
 

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