What is the Period of a Pendulum and String System with a Peg Obstacle?

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The discussion revolves around a pendulum system involving a string and a peg obstacle. The original poster presents a scenario where a pendulum swings from a height, interacts with a peg, and subsequently oscillates between two angles. The problem is situated within the context of classical mechanics, specifically focusing on the dynamics of pendulum motion and period calculation.

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  • The original poster contemplates the calculation of the period for the entire pendulum system, considering both the initial swing and the subsequent motion after hitting the peg. They express uncertainty about whether to treat the second motion as a separate torsional pendulum problem. Other participants suggest breaking down the problem into specific questions regarding the time taken for various segments of the motion and the conservation of energy principles involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been provided in the form of specific questions to consider, which may help clarify the approach to finding the period of the pendulum system.

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The original poster notes a lack of visual aids to support their explanation, which may impact the clarity of the problem setup. Additionally, the complexity of the system due to the peg's influence introduces potential assumptions about energy conservation and motion dynamics that are under discussion.

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i don't know if I'm making this look easy or hard but here's the question

A pendulum made of a string of length 10.4m and a spherical bob of mass 2.2kg is able to swing in a vertical plane. The pendulum is released from an angular position 41* from vertical. The string hits a peg located a distance 6m below the point of suspension and swings about the peg up to an angle "a" on the other side of the peg. the bob proceeds to oscillate back and forth between these two angular extremities. acc. of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2. what is the period of the pendulum plus the peg system shown above.

since period only depends on length of the string and acceleration due to gravity
this is what i was thinking about the problem. i just add two periods togethers. but then reading the problem again its sounds like i need to find the period of the second system in order to find the complete period of the entire system.

it sounds like the second system is a torsional pendulum problem so i might have to find the period for that.
i wish i had a pic to post up but i don't have it on my computer.
 
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lonely86driver said:
it sounds like the second system is a torsional pendulum problem so i might have to find the period for that.

It's nothing like that. You have a simple pendulum before and after the string touches the peg.

Try to answer the following questions, in order.

1.) How long does it take for the bob to drop from its release point to the peg?

2.) What must the angle [itex]a[/itex] be after the string hits the peg? (Hint: What quantity must be conserved here?)

3.) How long does it take for the bob to get to the angle [itex]a[/itex] after the string hits the peg?
 
ahhh i see now thanks
 
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