
#1
Oct2105, 06:44 PM

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My book (Halliday, 6th ed: Section 204), uses the momentum of the individual molecules in a gas to derive the pressure of the gas. They imagine the molecules hitting a wall. I'm a little rusty on my memory of conservation of momentum, so this equation is confusing me a bit:
(delta)p_{x} = (mv_{x})  (mv_{x}) = 2mv_{x} They then say that the molecule delivers +2mv_{x} of momentum to the wall. Are they approximating the wall as much more massive than the molecule, so the molecule's speed is unchanged (velocity opposite)? So to get from +mv_{x} to mv_{x} you would take mv_{x} mv_{x} mv_{x} = mv_{x} to get the change in momentum? I'm thinking I'm probably right, but I just feel a little queezy about it. Like there is something I'm not getting. I guess what I don't understand is the sentence: "the momentum (delta)p_{x} delivered to the wall by the molecule during the collision is +2mv_{x}." Could someone possibly start from scratch and show how all this comes from the conservation of momentum? I hope I made sense. Thanks a lot. 



#2
Oct2105, 07:18 PM

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You know what is an elastic collision right?, if a particle with speed v crashes against a perfectly elastic wall, it will go the opposite direction with the same speed v, so the particle will have a change in momentum.
[tex] \Delta p = mv_{x}  mv_{x} [/tex] 



#3
Oct2105, 08:33 PM

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Delta p _OF_ the gas molecule is p_final  p_initial .
the original momentum was (apparently) mv_x . Thinking of the centerofmomentum reference frame, a perfectly elastic collision has relative speed afterward being equal to the relative speed before collision. Yes, the wall is being thought of as one object, not as a bunch of individual molecules. So the wall does not move after the collision. (this is more general than it sounds; right wall is connected to the left wall, pushed leftward.) This means that the total momentum is constant, so the momentum change of the WALL is the negative momentum change of the molecule. 


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