Projectile Motion Archer Problem

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The discussion revolves around projectile motion problems involving an archer firing arrows at different angles and heights. The original poster presents two specific scenarios: one where an arrow is shot at an angle from the ground and another where an arrow is shot horizontally from a height.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the decomposition of two-dimensional projectile motion into one-dimensional components, focusing on vertical and horizontal motions separately. Questions about understanding the relevance of horizontal velocity in determining maximum height and range are raised.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of projectile motion. Some guidance has been provided on how to approach the problems by breaking them down into simpler components. The original poster expresses an improved understanding following the discussion.

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The problems are constrained by the assumption of no air resistance, and the original poster is seeking clarification on the application of kinematic principles in two-dimensional motion.

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I need help with a certain type of projectile motion problem (dunno exactly what it's called), but here's an example (these problems don't include air resistance):

An archer lies on the ground and fires an arrow with an initial velocity of 112 ft/sec at 40 degrees. What is the maximum height that the arrow will reach?

Another problem that I have trouble with is the type of projectile motion that involves something going from a certain height to a lower height. Here's an example of this:

An archer stands on a hill so that the arrow in the bow is 20 m above the groundn and is aimed at an angle of 0 degrees relative to the ground. If the archer is trying to hit a target that is lying on the ground 118 m away, with what initial velocity must she launch her arrow?

Can anyone explain how to solve these problems? Thanks for the help

-Nick
 
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Both of these problems are two-dimensional kinematics problems. Do you understand how to solve one-dimensional problems? For instance, if the archer had fired the arrow straight up instead of at an angle, could you solve that one?
 
Yeah, I know how to solve one-dimensional problems. I just can't seem to figure these out though.

-Nick
 
OK. The key here is to realize that you can decompose two- (or more-) dimensional problems into that many coupled one-dimensional problems. For instance, consider your "archer" question. The height the arrow reaches is really only determined by things that act vertically - gravity and the initial vertical speed of the arrow. If you decompose the initial speed of the arrow into horizontal and vertical components, then you can ignore the horizontal part and just work vertically. Voila! It's a one-dimensional problem.

Some students have a hard time seeing that the horizontal component of the velocity is irrelevant in that case. Does that make sense to you?

In the second case, it's a bit more complicated. You're looking for the range of the arrow. That's a "horizontal" question. However, it will travel horizontally only so long as it's in the air, and that's a "vertical" question. So: you'll split the velocity into horizontal and vertical components again. Realize that the only acceleration is vertically, so the horizontal side of things is just a "rate times time equals distance" problem - all you're missing is the time. Use the vertical parts to find the time, plug it into the horizontal part, and Bob's your uncle. In this case, the problem is a little easier than it could be because the initial vertical velocity is 0, but you can't ignore the vertical since that's the way gravity acts.

Does that help?
 
Yeah! A whole lot actually. Thanks!

-Nick
 

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