Noncommutative Geometry Explained

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The discussion centers on the topic of noncommutative geometry, exploring its origins, definitions, and implications within mathematics and physics. Participants inquire about the subject's novelty, its foundational concepts, and its potential significance in future research.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that noncommutative geometry is approximately 30 years old, with roots that may extend further back.
  • One participant describes noncommutative geometry as an algebraic theory that generalizes Riemannian manifolds, linking it to quantum mechanics through the representation of non-abelian C* algebras.
  • Another participant emphasizes the variability in definitions of noncommutative geometry, noting that different mathematicians and physicists may have distinct interpretations.
  • There is a suggestion that understanding commutative geometry is essential to grasp the concept of noncommutative geometry.
  • References to further reading include works by Connes and other mathematicians, indicating a diversity of sources for understanding the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of noncommutative geometry, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist without a clear consensus.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of commutative and noncommutative geometry, as well as the assumptions underlying various interpretations. The scope of the discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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How new is this subject of noncommutative geometry? I tried googling it, but few info comes out and there is not a lot of books about it either.

What is this subject about exactly and is it going to be something major?
 
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How new is this subject of noncommutative geometry? I tried googling it, but few info comes out and there is not a lot of books about it either.
What is this subject about exactly and is it going to be something major?

Hi, I think the subject is around 30 years old (it might be even more). Intuitively, non commutative geometry is a strict algebraic theory that allows one to generalize Riemannian manifolds. Connes remarked that such a structure (actually, you have to restrict yourself to manifolds with a spin structure if I remember correctly) can be fully characterized by the *commutative* C* algebra of C^infty functions equipped with a derivative operator. Now, you can ask yourself what ``geometry´´ you get when you allow the C* algebra to be non commutative. At that point you can use the GNS representation theorems which say that such non abelian C* algebra can be represented in terms of bounded operators on some Hilbert space. This gives you a link with quantum mechanics and one could hope to get quantum gravity out in this way. If you want references: search on Connes first.

Cheers,

Careful
 
Non-commutative geometry is a blanket term: Connes definition, if he even has such a thing as 'a definition' would not agree with, say, an algebraic geometer's idea.

The first thing you should ask yourself is: do i know what commutative geometry is? If so then it is relatively easy to see what 'non-commutative' geometry is: geometry without the restriction of commutativity. How you relax that criterion would I suspect depend upon whom you asked.
 
matt grime said:
Non-commutative geometry is a blanket term: Connes definition, if he even has such a thing as 'a definition' would not agree with, say, an algebraic geometer's idea.

The first thing you should ask yourself is: do i know what commutative geometry is? If so then it is relatively easy to see what 'non-commutative' geometry is: geometry without the restriction of commutativity. How you relax that criterion would I suspect depend upon whom you asked.
Indeed, and I gave one which is used by physicists (and which I remember to have read from a paper Connes has written for physicists). More abstract stuff can be found on webpages of Lieven Lebruyn and Michel Van den Bergh.
 

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