How Do You Calculate Error in Complex Physics Equations?

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The discussion revolves around calculating errors in complex physics equations, specifically focusing on the expression for energy involving variables with associated uncertainties. The subject area includes error analysis and partial differentiation in the context of physics equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of finding partial derivatives for error propagation and express challenges in applying this method. There are attempts to simplify the problem by treating other variables as constants during differentiation.

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Some participants have shared their struggles with the calculations and the application of partial derivatives. One participant indicates they have found a way to approach the problem, while others provide encouragement and affirm the correctness of the method discussed.

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Participants mention specific variables (R, B, and theta) that have associated errors, and there is a reference to homework constraints, such as having already submitted work and being unable to make changes.

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I really struggle with calculating errors :( I understand what i have to do, find the partial derivative of each variable and multiply it by the error, square it, add up all the others then square root the total. I just seem totally incapable of doing it :( The expression i have to find error on is:

[tex]E = m_{0}c^2 [\sqrt{1+(\frac{RqB}{m_{0}c\tan{\frac{\Theta}{2}}}) ^2} - 1][/tex]

Where R, B and theta all have errors associated with them! (to find the error on E)

I've been told its possible to break it down one bit at a time, so evalulating the RqB bit i get:

[tex]\sigma = \sqrt{ (B\Delta R)^2 + (R\Delta B)^2}[/tex]

But no idea where to go next :( Any help much appreciated!
 
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So are you having trouble with finding the partial derivatives in the uncertainty expression below??
[tex]\sigma=\sqrt{(\frac{\delta E}{\delta R})^2*(\Delta R)^2+(\frac{\delta E}{\delta B})^2*(\Delta B)^2+(\frac{\delta E}{\delta\theta})^2*(\Delta\theta)^2}[/tex]
 
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Hi,

Yeah i was having trouble with it. I think I've solved it now. I went an incredibly long way around it by calling everything else inside the bracket which wasnt the variable to be differentiated, a constant, such as C. That made me see what was going on a bit better and i think it worked! *fingers crossed* i can't change it now as the work has been handed in :) Thanks though!
 
yeah well that's all you do in partial differentiation anyway. You treat everything else as a constant except the variable you are differentiatin with respect to. Then in your case you had to apply the chain rule and bob's your uncle ;)
Good luck with it then and it sounds like you had the right idea so it should be ok.
 

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