How Can Lee's Claim Be Disproved?

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The discussion revolves around a humorous mathematical claim that equates girls with evil, using a series of equations and references to the phrase "money is the root of all evil." Participants explore the implications of this claim, its humorous intent, and the philosophical underpinnings of money and morality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical equation claiming "Girls = Evil" based on a series of substitutions involving money and time.
  • Another participant questions the humor and relevance of the claim, suggesting that it oversimplifies complex social issues.
  • Some participants argue that money itself is not evil, but rather the actions of people regarding money that lead to negative outcomes.
  • There is a discussion about the misquote of the biblical phrase regarding money, with participants emphasizing the importance of accurate citations.
  • Several participants express confusion over the intent of the original claim and the use of terms like "For Lee" and "Q.E.D."
  • One participant suggests that if children do not equal evil, then girls cannot equal evil, challenging the original claim's logic.
  • Another participant humorously states that math itself is evil, contributing to the playful tone of the discussion.
  • The conversation shifts to a broader discussion about the value of women and how they should be treated, with some participants engaging in light-hearted banter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the humor or validity of the original claim. There are competing views on the nature of money and morality, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the mathematical analogy.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and assumptions underlying the original claim, particularly regarding the relationship between money, evil, and social behavior.

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[tex] For Lee,<br /> \begin{equation*}<br /> \begin{split}<br /> Claim: Girls &= Evil\\<br /> Girls &= Money * Time\\<br /> Time &= Money\\<br /> Girls &= Money^2\\<br /> Money &= \sqrt{Evil}\\<br /> Girls &= \sqrt{Evil}^2 = Evil\\<br /> \end{split}\end{equation*}<br /> Q.E.D.[/tex]
 
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Funny,

but it isn't exactly systems engineering

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tru dat
 
I don't get it, money isn't evil, it is those who lust for it who give it the bad name.
 
You have surely heard the phrase "Money is the root of all evil" ie money is the root of evil. Of course it does not specify square root of evil it could be the cube root or an even higher power. So it is not exactly clear that total equality holds, but it sure is a good approximation.
 
Yes, I have heard of the phrase, I'm not stupid, I just don't see how A)this is funny or B)how money could really be the root of all evil. Now if we are religious then we'd say that Satan is the root of al evil. But if we are thinking from a purely objective and scientific veiw, people are. It has nothing to do with the objects. For example, it's like saying weapons are the source of all murders, but one doesn't convict a weapon, it is the murderers who murder people and are responsible and should be convicted.
 
Originally posted by Jonathan
Yes, I have heard of the phrase, I'm not stupid, I just don't see how A)this is funny or B)how money could really be the root of all evil. Now if we are religious then we'd say that Satan is the root of al evil. But if we are thinking from a purely objective and scientific veiw, people are. It has nothing to do with the objects. For example, it's like saying weapons are the source of all murders, but one doesn't convict a weapon, it is the murderers who murder people and are responsible and should be convicted.

jonathan, relax a bit, it was a joke :smile:
 
Yes, I know, I have a stick up by butt. I also don't understand the 'For Lee' and 'QED' parts. Really, the joke went over and under my head at the same time.
 
Originally posted by Jonathan
Yes, I know, I have a stick up by butt. I also don't understand the 'For Lee' and 'QED' parts. Really, the joke went over and under my head at the same time.

QED = Quod Erat Demonstandum
aprox translation = and so we have, it is demonstrated

I don't understand "For Lee" either...
 
  • #10
Over generalizations = evil.


(Girls=money*time)= social parasite with XX chromosome


Replace girls with boys you get...

(boys=money*time) = social parasite with XY chromosome

Assuming money*time is used in a negative connotative manner.


Otherwise, children=money*time which leads to children=evil. Thus, since children do not equal evil, then girls do not equal evil.
 
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  • #11
Originally posted by adrenaline
Otherwise, children=money*time which leads to children=evil. Thus, since children do not equal evil, then girls do not equal evil.

actually if children do not equal evil, then for girls not to equal evil you have to prove that children equals girls...
that's how math works... :wink:

also to be picky I can say that children = money*time*love thus children doesn't equal girls
 
  • #12
Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood
actually if children do not equal evil, then for girls not to equal evil you have to prove that children equals girls...
that's how math works... :wink:

also to be picky I can say that children = money*time*love thus children doesn't equal girls


Did I also mention math is evil?
 
  • #13
Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
[tex] For Lee,<br /> \begin{equation*}<br /> \begin{split}<br /> Claim: Girls &= Evil\\<br /> Girls &= Money * Time\\<br /> Time &= Money\\<br /> Girls &= Money^2\\<br /> Money &= \sqrt{Evil}\\<br /> Girls &= \sqrt{Evil}^2 = Evil\\<br /> \end{split}\end{equation*}<br /> Q.E.D.[/tex]

I wouldn't go as far as saying as money is evil, as Jonathan touched upon, but I would say that money can corrupt.
 
  • #14
Well the quote " money is the root of all evil"

Is in fact a misquote of the bible.

The correct quote if memory serves is :

"The love of money is the root of all evil"

If you going to quote things you really should know the source and get it correct.
 
  • #15
As Guybrush Threepwood said, "relax a bit, it was a joke" If you want to nit pick this obviously funny mathmatical equation then do it elsewhere. I could dive into how 'money' is metaphorical meaning 'all worldly possesions'. Then this equation makes no sense.

I had to read it three times before I got the punch line at the end.

Very good PrudensOptimus.
 
  • #16
Hi

This is a 2nd attempt to reply, Don't know what happened before.

"Money is the root of all evil" is a misquote of 1 Timothy chapter 6 verse 10.

This is rendered differently in different English translations but I think a good sense of it would be:

"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"

You really should try to get quotes correct you know otherwise you
end up with erronious assertions like the one you posted.
It should have been obvious from the start that girls are of far greater value than the square root of anything.:wink:
 
  • #17
Oh that's really Odd after posting a 2nd time I can see my 1st post, the original and subsequent ones but nothing in between.

Ps.

I'm relaxed, of course it's a joke so was my reply in a way.:wink:
 
  • #18
I like this thread. This is nice.

IMO, two of life's 'truths' have been posted here.

1. Math is evil :wink:
2. Girls are of far greater value than the square root of anything.
(I would like to include men in this statement -- we ARE all
all equal, aren't we )
 
  • #19
Originally posted by Tsunami
we ARE all
all equal, aren't we )

Yes master.
 
  • #20
Women are the greatest things in the Earth if approached and handled properly.
 
  • #21
Originally posted by The_Professional
Women are the greatest things in the Earth if approached and handled properly.
Well said.
 
  • #22
Originally posted by The_Professional
if...handled properly.



please explain this concept in detail.






EDIT: Tsunami, I am surprised at your response!

Perhaps The_Professional meant "treated" and not "handled".:wink:
 
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  • #23
Originally posted by Jonathan
Yes, I have heard of the phrase, I'm not stupid, I just don't see how A)this is funny or B)how money could really be the root of all evil. Now if we are religious then we'd say that Satan is the root of al evil. But if we are thinking from a purely objective and scientific veiw, people are. It has nothing to do with the objects. For example, it's like saying weapons are the source of all murders, but one doesn't convict a weapon, it is the murderers who murder people and are responsible and should be convicted.

hahaha, man, this is so lame.
 
  • #24
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking


please explain this concept in detail.






EDIT: Tsunami, I am surprised at your response!

Perhaps The_Professional meant "treated" and not "handled".:wink:
Treated... Handled... They could mean the same thing or not! Either or both could be VERY pleasant indeed!:wink:
 
  • #25
Originally posted by Tsunami
Treated... Handled... They could mean the same thing or not! Either or both could be VERY pleasant indeed!:wink:

You've been eating oysters again haven't you?
 
  • #26
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
You've been eating oysters again haven't you?
As often as possible! (Whattcha doin' later, sailor? ):wink:
 
  • #27
Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood
QED = Quod Erat Demonstandum
aprox translation = and so we have, it is demonstrated

I don't understand "For Lee" either...


Lee is a former classmate of mine, but I nolonger keep in touch with her as often as usual because we nolonger have a class together.
 
  • #28
I believe that handling, treating, whatever a girl 'properly' is 80% improve or intuition, and 20% experience or brains.

First you need to know what you want out of the relationship. Then from there 'scope' and find the girl that will fill this role. So many men want a woman but they have no expectations of what she should be. Then when there with her they relize that she's not what they wanted.

There's no right or wrong way to approch a girl, just the right and wrong girls to approch.
 
  • #29
Alright alright...this thread is begging to be pooped on.
I mean come on! The Star Trek convention must have let out early, yes? And your equation, Girls = Evil...come on! This comes from a group of men who have probably never even talked to a woman without having to give a credit card number! You seem like the kinds of guys who beg for sex...I should know, we can smell our own. I keeeed I keeeeeeed...

You've been a terrific audience...for me to poop on!
http://www.mediocreminds.com/03q3/misc/pcs/triumph.jpg
 
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  • #30
okay... Physicists are the root of all anal retention.

It was a joke, and jokes are meant to be FUNNY, picking things apart is never ever funny. not even if it is a scab.
and when there is a person's name with the word 'for' in front of it. that generally means that that person is the intended recipient of said object.

and yeah good joke by the way... i liked it.
 

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