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| Oct27-05, 08:48 AM | #1 |
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Kerry's speech calling for and suggesting an exit strategy from Iraq |
| Oct27-05, 08:56 AM | #2 |
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Apparently Republicans have ideas too.
Bush: "Let's invade Iraq. It'll be great. Everyone'll love it." |
| Oct27-05, 08:57 AM | #3 |
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| Oct27-05, 08:57 AM | #4 |
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Kerry's speech calling for and suggesting an exit strategy from Iraq
Wow counds like he is actually thinking about the well fair of the US, and Iraq. Good on him!
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| Oct27-05, 09:08 AM | #5 |
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I don't believe we can reshape the ME for the better. Nor do I believe we have the right. On a side note. I wonder what kind of flack Kerry would have gotten for Katrina, if he had been elected? |
| Oct27-05, 09:21 AM | #6 |
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*feeling an urge to blend in*I think I finally understand why Kelly failed to curry favour with the Americans, he is too intellectual (!). Any way Bush is nice in his own way as well, bringing every religiosity, banality, cruelty, hypocrisy, stupidity that America has to offer to the fore and to a head too. The rest of the world would have otherwise been duped for some more years if it were not for him.
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| Oct27-05, 09:26 AM | #7 |
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| Oct27-05, 09:32 AM | #8 |
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I think there's a better way to pull out of Iraq, and this is going to sound anti-American but it's not at all. Pull out the American troops and send in more troops from other countries. Think about it. Who gets all the blame for the mess in Iraq despite the fact they were only one of the members of the coalition, and one of two countries pushing strong for the invasion in the first place? Which country are those who use Iraq as a platform for anti-western activities most preoccupied with? Which country's troops come under the most criticism for brutality (e.g. torture), ineptitude (e.g. friendly fire), misconduct (e.g. bombing where they shouldn't) and being ill-disposed (e.g. climate problems)? America is a symbol for anti-western and anti-coalition sentiment, and the American troops have been a source of discontentment for Iraqis and non-American soldiers alike since the beginning of the war. I think their very presence ironically makes them pulling out more difficult. Like I said, that's not an anti-American sentiment. Most of those reasons are entirely due to America being the most powerful country in the coalition, and so naturally deemed the most responsible for the foul situation. |
| Oct27-05, 09:36 AM | #9 |
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| Oct27-05, 09:56 AM | #10 |
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Of course, the more obvious problem is one of numbers. On the other hand, it could be they don't even HAVE a plan, which is consistent with the lack of forward-planning they've demonstrated so far. Regardless, politicians say things when they're not in power they wouldn't necessarily do if they were in power. I don't see the point in applauding someone for an orotund pronouncement of the way forward when they have no capacity to deliver. I'm not saying don't support his argument; I'm just saying it's hardly surprising the opposition have vocal ideas about how to get out of Iraq. |
| Oct27-05, 10:00 AM | #11 |
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There is little incentive for other nations to help out. With America in charge, and Bushco in charge of America, the situation is only going to get worse. Why would any other nation want to get involved in a lose lose situation? |
| Oct27-05, 10:12 AM | #12 |
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| Oct27-05, 10:29 AM | #13 |
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This speech is in line with what he was saying during the campaign. Maybe you missed it amid all the coverage of the swift boat smear campaign. [edit]Not directed at you you Anttech, just in general.[/edit] |
| Oct27-05, 10:58 AM | #14 |
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Yeah, I remember the plan for withdrawal, from the campaign. 4000 troops would start coming home last January.
And Skyhunter, I don't know that: |
| Oct27-05, 11:11 AM | #15 |
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| Oct27-05, 11:11 AM | #16 |
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| Oct27-05, 11:17 AM | #17 |
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What he mentioned in the end was the criticism levelled at them from the end of the war onwards. Pull out immediately and let them get on with it ... When Saddam fell, there were no terrorist in Iraq. This would not have been abandoment had they invited the UN to take over but ... well, they wanted all the lucrative contract for themselves.
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