Simple Single Variable Derivative Question

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = abs(x)^(3/2) at the point a=0 using the definition of the derivative. Participants are exploring the implications of using the limit definition in the context of single-variable calculus while the original poster is currently studying multivariable calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the definition of the derivative but expresses confusion about whether they can substitute a=0 directly into the limit. Some participants question this approach and discuss the role of the variable "a" in the limit definition. Others suggest using an alternative limit definition and factoring techniques.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the use of the limit definition. Some guidance has been offered regarding the substitution of "a" and the handling of the limit, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of uncertainty regarding the rules of substituting values in the limit process, and the original poster expresses feelings of confusion and frustration about their understanding of the topic.

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wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:

f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0

so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:

lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h

I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)

help! I feel really stupid right now.
 
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why can't you plug a=0 ?
 
I thought when you were using definition of derivative, you aren't allowed to plug in for a until you have it simplified? Am I wrong? I could be .. it's been a year since I've had to work with definition of derivative.
 
There's no such rule. "a" is a placeholder for a constant; place your constant in there to get the derivative there. Leave it as "a" to get an expression for the derivative (if it exists) at all values of "a". :smile:
 
cappygal said:
wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:
f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0
so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:
lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h
I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)
help! I feel really stupid right now.

use the *other* definition of limit:
f '(a) = lim (x->a) of [abs(x)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/(x-a)

then factor the top as a difference of cubes.
 
cappygal said:
wow! I am having a major brain fart here .. I'm in multivariable calc but I need to take the derivative of a single variable function using the definition of derivative. The function is:
f(x)=abs(x)^(3/2) and I need to find the derivative when a=0
so by the def of derivative, the derivative equals:
lim (h->0) of [abs(a+h)^(3/2)-abs(a)^3/2]/h
I know I'm not allowed to just "plug in" a=0 to get the derivative at this point .. but how do I do it? I can't combine the absolute value terms because of the triangle inequality (for ex. abs(-6)-abs(3)=3 but abs(-6-3)=9)
help! I feel really stupid right now.
You cannot plug in h= 0 because that would give 0/0. But if you are finding the derivative at a given x= a, you certainly can plug in that value of a before you start. You are looking for
[tex]lim_{h\rightarrow0}\frac{h^{\frac{3}{2}}}{h}[/tex]
That should be easy.
 

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