Solving a Swing Problem: Finding the Tension

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a swing at an angle theta from the vertical, with a massless swing and a child of weight W at the end. Participants are exploring how to determine the tension in the swing both at an angle and when it is vertical.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss dividing forces into x and y components and question the appropriate directions for these components. There are attempts to express tension in terms of weight and theta, with some participants suggesting using trigonometric relationships to analyze the forces acting on the child.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on analyzing forces and suggesting considerations for the setup. There is an exploration of the forces acting on the child when at rest and in motion, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach to finding the tension.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available and the methods that can be used. The original poster expresses a need for clarification on the relationship between tension and weight in the context of the swing's motion.

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Im looking at a swing problem with a swing at some angle theta from vertical. The swing is massless and a child with weight W sits at the end of the swing. How do i find the tension of the swing? Likewise, when the swing is vertical?

Thanks!:smile:
 
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You should divide the forces into x and y components. What do you think would be the best directions for x and y?
 
I tried, but i got something like the x component of tension being the Force Applied/sin theta and the y component being the weight over sine theta or something like that, but i need to find it in terms of weight and theta.

Thanks for your help!
 
Try with y being into the rope's direction.
What then should forces in that direction equal?
 
ilovephysics123 said:
Im looking at a swing problem with a swing at some angle theta from vertical. The swing is massless and a child with weight W sits at the end of the swing. How do i find the tension of the swing? Likewise, when the swing is vertical?
Thanks!:smile:

Ok, think about this: When the child sits on the swing at rest, what are the forces acting on the child on the swing? At least one contact(tension)force and one non-contact(weight) force. (Is there normal force, if not, then tension force and weight force are equal and opposite right?)

Now the child is in motion. On standard x-y axis, the weight is straight down and tension is [tex]\theta[/tex] from the vertical. Now use your vast knowledge of trigonometry(or even geometry) to find where that angle goes, and set the sum of the forces in the x-direction and y-direction
 

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