How is the Range of a Projectile on an Inclined Plane Derived?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the range of a projectile launched at an angle on an inclined plane. The problem involves understanding the relationship between the projectile's initial speed, launch angle, and the angle of inclination of the plane.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the equations of motion for the projectile, attempting to express the horizontal and vertical displacements in terms of the range R and the angles involved. Questions arise about the placement of R in the equations and the implications of the angles on the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the missing R in the equations, while others are questioning the correctness of the expressions used. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables, with no clear consensus yet on the next steps.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as posed, with specific attention to the angles involved and the need to derive a formula without providing a complete solution. There are indications of potential errors in the initial setup that are being discussed.

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Q. A projectile is fired with an initial speed [tex]V_0[/tex] at an angle [tex]\beta[/tex] to the horitontal. Show that it's range alnog a plane which it's self is inclined at an angle [tex]\alpha[/tex] to the horitontal [tex]( \beta > \alpha)[/tex] is given by:
[tex] R = \frac{(2{V_0}^2 cos \beta sin(\beta - \alpha )}{g {cos}^2\alpha}[/tex]

A.So I`ve started off with
[tex]\triangle x = (V_0 cos \beta) t[/tex]
and
[tex]\triangle y = (V_0 sin \beta) t - frac{1}{2} g t^2[/tex]

[tex]\triangle x = cos \alpha[/tex]and [tex]\triangle y = sin \alpha[/tex]
so i rearranged [tex]\triangle x[/tex] to get [tex]t = \frac{cos \alpha}{V_0 cos \beta}[/tex] and sub it into [tex]\triangle y[/tex]
now i have
[tex] \triangle y = (V_0 sin \beta)\frac{cos \alpha}{V_0 cos \beta} - \frac{1}{2} g ( \frac{cos \alpha}{V_0 cos \beta} )[/tex]

[tex] \triangle y= \frac {V_0 sin \beta cos \alpha}{V_0 cos \beta} - \frac{1}{2} g ( \frac{cos \alpha}{V_0 cos \beta})[/tex]
[tex] sin \alpha = tan \beta cos \alpha - \frac {g {cos}^2 \alpha}{2 {V_0}^2 {cos}^2 \beta}[/tex]
now i`m stuck ... Any hint`s/tips would be great.
Cheers.
 
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Somewhere there seems to be an 'R' missing.

Also, one of the latex expression needs \ in front of frac.
 
delta x = cos(alpha) ??
 
daniel_i_l said:
delta x = cos(alpha) ??

alpha is the angle of the inclinded plane. it forms a right triangle with the horizontal and the point at which the projectile meets the inclinded plane. therefore delta x is equal to cos alpha.
 
zanazzi78 said:
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[tex]\triangle x = cos \alpha[/tex]and [tex]\triangle y = sin \alpha[/tex]
...
This is where the R is missing. They should be,

[tex]\triangle x = Rcos \alpha[/tex]and [tex]\triangle y = Rsin \alpha[/tex]
 
Fermat said:
This is where the R is missing. They should be,
[tex]\triangle x = Rcos \alpha[/tex]and [tex]\triangle y = Rsin \alpha[/tex]

ok so i`ve put the 'R' s in and get

[tex] R Sin \alpha = R tan \beta cos \alpha - \frac {R g {cos}^2 \alpha}{2 {V_0}^2 {cos}^2 \beta}[/tex]

but i don`t see how this helps?
 
You're almost there. But the R in the last term should be R²
 

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