Gas Laws Corrections: Calculating Volume & Molar Mass

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The discussion revolves around the calculations related to gas laws, specifically focusing on determining the volume occupied by nitrogen gas at different conditions and calculating the molar mass of a gas using the ideal gas law. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and homework-related queries.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the volume of 6.5 g of nitrogen gas at STP, arriving at approximately 5.15 L, and then calculates the volume at -40.0 C and 65.0 kPa, obtaining 6.9 L.
  • The same participant attempts to find the molar mass of a gas given its volume and mass at specific conditions, calculating a molar mass of approximately 61.5 g/mol.
  • Another participant suggests that the first poster is using incorrect units and should review their work, specifically mentioning standard temperature as 25°C.
  • A different participant argues that the correct standard conditions for temperature and pressure are 0°C and 101.3 kPa, clarifying the context of STP.
  • One participant recommends checking the answers using the conversion factor of 1 mole/22.4 L, indicating that part a) seems correct while expressing uncertainty about the third calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the correct standard temperature for calculations, with some asserting it should be 25°C while others maintain it is 0°C. There is also uncertainty about the correctness of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on the definitions of standard temperature and pressure, which are contested in the discussion. There are unresolved aspects regarding the accuracy of the calculations and the use of units.

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could u guys tell if I am right with these:
1)
a) calculate the volume occupied by 6.5 g of Nitrogen gas @ STP

[tex]\frac{1_{mol}}{28g_{N_2}}=\frac{x_{mol}}{6.5g}[/tex]

[tex]x\sim0.23[/tex]

[tex]\frac{101.3*V}{273*0.23}=8.31[/tex]

so i got that 6.5 grams of N_2 is ~ 0.23 mol so using the ideal gas law i solved for V getting 5.15 L

b) calculate the volume occupied by this mass of gas at -40.0 C and 65.0 kPa

[tex]\frac{65*V}{233*0.23}=8.31[/tex]

so i did the same thing as "a" except filled in those values of temperature(kelvin) and pressure, i got 6.9 L
2)
this one I am not so sure about:
what is the molar mass of a gas if 375 cm^3 have mass 0.800 g at 85 C and 100.7 kPa?
using the ideal gas law i did:

[tex]\frac{100.7*0.375}{358*n}=8.31[/tex]

[tex]n\sim ~ 0.013 mol[/tex]

then i divided 0.800g by 0.013 mol and got ~ 61.5 grams molar mass
is that right?
thanks in advance
 
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you're using the wrong units, review your text or use common sense and use the correct units, remember standard temperature is 25C
 
no you're thinking standard AMBIENT temp and pressure, these problems deal with STP, being 0C and 101.3 kPa
 
alright, check your answers with the that obtained by using the conversion factor 1mole/22.4L, part a) seems right, the third one seems fine by me
 

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