A Geometric Product (a series of exercises for the curious)

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The discussion revolves around the geometric product and its relation to the geometric series, specifically exploring the identity involving the infinite product of terms of the form (1 + z^(2^k)). Participants are tasked with proving this identity in multiple ways, examining the properties of logarithmic derivatives, and discussing the implications of these mathematical constructs.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants introduce the geometric product and its proposed equality to the geometric series, prompting proofs in two different methods.
  • Hints are provided, suggesting methods such as converting binary to decimal and using a factoring trick related to the difference of squares.
  • One participant presents a proof using the difference of squares, detailing the steps taken to arrive at the limit and concluding with the identity.
  • Another participant discusses the separability of the differential equation related to the logarithmic derivative and confirms a family of solutions.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the convergence of the series and the implications for complex numbers, seeking clarification on the conditions under which the identity holds.
  • One participant elaborates on the binary representation of integers and its relation to the terms generated in the product, linking it back to the geometric series.
  • Another participant references Euler's approach to the problem, suggesting that while his methods may lack rigor, they could provide insight into the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to proving the identity, with no consensus reached on a single method or interpretation of the results. Uncertainties regarding convergence and the applicability of the results to complex numbers also remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding convergence, the dependence on definitions of logarithmic derivatives, and the complexity of the branch cut structure of logarithmic functions in the complex plane.

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I hope you have fun with these...

OK, so you know the geometric series, right? It goes like this:

[tex]\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} z^k = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

How about this one? Call it, say, the geometric product:

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

Prove it in two ways.

Suppose a function [tex]f(z)[/tex] is equal to its own logarithmic derivative, namely, suppose that

[tex]\exists f(z)\mbox{ such that } \frac{d}{dz}\ln\left( f(z)\right) = \frac{f^{\prime}(z)}{f(z)} = f(z)[/tex]

Prove that [itex]f(z)=\frac{1}{C-z}[/itex] where C is a constant, is a family of solutions to this differential equation.

That being known, and taking C=1 above, we have (hand-waving the convergence details):

[tex]\frac{d}{dz}\ln\left[ \prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) \right] = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

We have derived what new series by virtue of the fact that the log of a product is the sum of the logs?
 
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Would a hint help? two?

How about this one? Call it, say, the geometric product:

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

Prove it in two ways.

Hint #1: Convert binary to decimal.

Hint #2: Algebra I students know this factoring trick: use it in reverse.
 
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Prove it via Hint #2: Algebra I students know this factoring trick: use it in reverse. Said factoring trick is the difference of squares.
Proof:

[tex](1-z)\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z)\prod_{k=0}^{M} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z)(1+z)(1+z^2)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^16)\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^2)(1+z^2)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^16)\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^4)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^16)\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^8)(1+z^8)(1+z^16)\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)=\cdot\cdot\cdot =\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1- z^{2^{M}}\right) \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1- z^{2^{M+1}}\right)=1,\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

QED.
 
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Prove it via Hint #2: Algebra I students know this factoring trick: use it in reverse. Said factoring trick is the difference of squares.
Proof:
[tex](1-z)\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z)\prod_{k=0}^{M} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z)(1+z)(1+z^2)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^{16})\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^2)(1+z^2)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^{16})\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^4)(1+z^4)(1+z^8)(1+z^{16})\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} (1-z^8)(1+z^8)(1+z^{16})\cdot\cdot\cdot \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)=\cdot\cdot\cdot =\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1- z^{2^{M}}\right) \left( 1+ z^{2^{M}}\right)[/tex]
[tex]=\lim_{M \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1- z^{2^{M+1}}\right)=1,\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]
QED.
 
It's separable

Suppose a function [tex]f(z)[/tex] is equal to its own logarithmic derivative, namely, suppose that
[tex]\exists f(z)\mbox{ such that } \frac{d}{dz}\ln\left( f(z)\right) = \frac{f^{\prime}(z)}{f(z)} = f(z)[/tex]

Our ODE, namely [itex]\frac{f^{\prime}(z)}{f(z)} = f(z)[/itex], is separable:

[tex]\frac{1}{f}\frac{df}{dz}=f \Rightarrow \frac{1}{f^{2}}df = dz \Rightarrow \int \frac{1}{f^{2}}df = \int dz \Rightarrow -\frac{1}{f} + C = z[/tex]

and hence [itex]f(z)=\frac{1}{C-z}[/itex], where C is a constant, is a family of solutions to this ODE.

To check,

[tex]\frac{d}{dz}\ln\left( f(z)\right) = \frac{d}{dz}\ln\left( \frac{1}{C-z}\right) = \frac{\frac{d}{dz} \left( \frac{1}{C-z}\right)}{\frac{1}{C-z}} = \frac{1}{C-z} = f(z)[/tex].
 
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Strange series transformation of the geometric Series

It has been shown in the above post that [itex]f(z)=\frac{1}{C-z}[/itex], where C is a constant, is a family of solutions to [itex]\frac{d}{dz}\ln\left( f(z)\right) = f(z)[/itex].

Put C=1 above, and recall that:

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex].

We have (hand-waving the convergence details, I know that the following works [itex]\forall z\in\mathbb{R}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/itex], but I don't understand the complex branch cut structure of [itex]\ln (z)[/itex] well-enough to say for [itex]z\in\mathbb{C}[/itex]) :

[tex]\frac{d}{dz}\ln\left[ \prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) \right] = \frac{d}{dz} \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \ln \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{\frac{d}{dz} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right)}{ 1+ z^{2^{k}}} = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ 2^{k} z^{2^{k}-1}}{ 1+ z^{2^{k}}} = \frac{1}{1-z}[/tex]

Someone help? :confused: [itex]\rightarrow[/itex] Should this hold [tex]\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex], or just [tex]\forall z\in\mathbb{R}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]?

-Ben
 
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Prove it via Hint #1: Convert binary to decimal: think exponents.
Note that expanding (that is multiplying out) the left-hand side of:

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \frac{1}{1-z}[/tex]

each term in the resulting sum is a result of multiplying some combination of [tex]\left\{ 1, z, z^2, z^4, z^8, z^{16},...,z^{2^{k}},... \right\}[/tex], and hence, for the term [tex]a_{k} z^{b_{k}}[/tex] in the resulting sum, [tex]b_{k}[/tex] is some sum of unique powers of two, and [tex]a_{k}[/tex] is the number of ways to sum such unique powers of two, and by that I do mean [tex]a_{k}=1, \forall k\in\mathbb{N}[/tex] and since each decimal integer represents exactly one integer in binary, we have [tex]b_{k}=k, \forall k\in\mathbb{N}[/tex], namley

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} z^k[/tex]

but we know that is just the geometric series, hence

[tex]\prod_{k=0}^{\infty} \left( 1+ z^{2^{k}}\right) = \frac{1}{1-z},\forall z\in\mathbb{C}\mbox{ such that }\left| z\right|<1[/tex]

as required.

Is this the last post on this thread? :cry: You decide.
 
here's what euler did

[tex]\frac{1}{1-z} = \frac{1-z^{2}}{1-z}\times\frac{1-z^{4}}{1-z^{2}}\times\frac{1-z^{8}}{1-z^{4}}\times\frac{1-z^{16}}{1-z^{8}}\times\frac{1-z^{32}}{1-z^{16}}...[/tex]

i guess you'd have to make it rigourous since euler was the sloppiest mathematcian of all time but that might help anyway.
 
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