What is the Speed of the Upper End of a Falling Pole?

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The problem involves a 3.30 m long pole balanced vertically on its tip, which is given a slight push. The objective is to determine the speed of the upper end of the pole just before it hits the ground, assuming the lower end does not slip. The context is rooted in rotational motion and energy conservation principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles but struggles with the rotational velocity component and the lack of time information. Some participants suggest that all energy is rotational due to the no-slip condition and provide the moment of inertia for the pole. There are questions about the appropriate radius to use in the relationship between linear and angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into energy conservation and the moment of inertia. There is a productive exchange regarding the relationship between linear speed and rotational velocity, although the original poster still has questions about specific variables. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts without reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the lower end of the pole does not slip, which influences the energy considerations. The original poster's deadline for the assignment adds urgency to the discussion.

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Please help me get this, it's due tonigh tonight on webassign. The question is:

A 3.30 m long pole is balanced vertically on its tip. It is given a tiny push. What will be the speed of the upper end of the pole just before it hits the ground? Assume the lower end does not slip.

I know to use MgH = 1/2 MV^2 + 1/2 Iw^2

but when you plug in for w, what do you use? w is rotational velocity and you have to know the time frame, and it doesn't give you that. how do you do this problem??
 
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Since there is no slippage, all energy is rotational (PE = RE.) Your moment of inertia in this case is [itex]\frac{1}{3}mL^2[/itex], where "L" is the length of the pole. You can find the potential energy when the pole is standing up (mgh) but remember that the center of mass is at h = L/2. And remember that [itex]v = r\omega[/itex]

Oh, and let me guess, Physics - Giancoli :-p
 
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haha yeah its giancoli. thanks so much for your help, but i still have one question though. you you are plugging in v/r for w, what do you use for r?
 
HPVic03 said:
haha yeah its giancoli. thanks so much for your help, but i still have one question though. you you are plugging in v/r for w, what do you use for r?

The length of the pole because it asks for the speed of the top end of the pole which is 3.30m from the pivot point.
 
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hey thanks i got it
 
No Problem :smile:
 

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