What are the fundamental physics equations?

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The discussion revolves around the fundamental equations in physics and the mathematical concepts underlying them. Participants explore the transition from conceptual understanding to mathematical formulation, touching on various theories and forces in physics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the mathematical aspects of physics, specifically mentioning light's relation to mass and gravity, and seeks guidance on fundamental equations.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the equation E = mc^2 as a connection between light and mass, but notes that it is not a fundamental equation and has limitations.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of mastering basic physics concepts and equations before advancing to more complex topics like relativity.
  • One contributor argues that fundamental equations are empirical and cannot be derived, highlighting the necessity of understanding the mathematics to appreciate the intricacies of physics.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in physics and the role of mathematics, but there is disagreement on what constitutes a fundamental equation and the approach to learning physics.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions of fundamental equations and the relationship between different physical theories, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts.

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Howdy all,

I've begun to get started in learning about physics, but am still lightyears removed from any of the mathematical aspects of the science.

Thus I am now looking to move from themes to numbers (and I'm kinda nervous :rolleyes: lol)

Anyway, here's where I'm heading currently - please help guide my approach to mathematical aspect of physics:

1) Light's relation to mass: Described by General Relativity (? I can never remember which one says what). Also - subjectively - well describe in a Frank Wilczek (http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/204/) .

2) Mass relation's to Gravity: Newton Equation's, Relativity(?)

3) What equations or mathematical ideas describe the strong and weak forces?

Thanks so much!

JHE

PS - Hope this doesn't look like a HW question

:rolleyes:
 
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E = mc^2 is always a good start:wink: that relates light to mass (sort of)
 
...try starting with a high school textbook and understand everything in it. Also, don't ignore the problems, they go a long way in helping you get comfortabe with physics and even gaining a deeper understnding. I can't just tell you the "fundamental equations of physics", because that wouldn't make you undersand anything. And even when learning from a textbook, always know where the equations come from. You can move onto stuff like relativity after you master the basics.
 
Jay-qu said:
E = mc^2 is always a good start:wink: that relates light to mass (sort of)

Most people who have not dealt with Special Relativity may not believe it, but that equation isn't "fundamental" at all. It may be the most famous, but fundamental? No. It was derived from a more fundamental starting point. Besides, if "m" is the rest mass (or proper mass), then that equation is not even the most general since it is only special case (it can't be applied to photons).

Zz.
 
I agree with Dx, you need to start on the basics in order to develop your physics intuition. Without this intuition, you will find it difficult, if not impossible, to have any meaningful discussions on more advanced topics. (You wouldn't believe the number of people who come on these forums slandering theories that have long been accepted by the scientific community, based on a very limited understanding on what they are talking about).

While it is possible, (and enjoyable) to study physics without equations, in order to fully appreciate and understand the intricacies of our universe, one needs to understand the mathematics.

With regard to fundamental equations - these are equations that cannot be formulated through derivation, they can only be obtained empyrically (by experiment).

Claude.
 
Gracias, all.
 

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