Solving Complex Algebra Equations with Calculator Tips - Ti-83 Tricks

In summary, the conversation is discussing a hard algebra question with two formulas: 12-x^2 -2xy = 0 and 12-y^2 - 2xy = 0. The goal is to solve for x and y, which are both 2 for some reason. The conversation discusses two possible cases and suggests using a calculator or completing the square to find the solutions. The conversation ends with a link to a website that may provide the answers.
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dagg3r
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hi this is a hard algebra qestion
i have these 2 formulas

12-x^2 -2xy = 0
12-y^2 - 2xy = 0

for some reason x and y are both 2

how do you get this
i tried and got

y= 6/x -0.5x tried to sub into second one but gets messy any way to do this on a calculator by any chance i have a Ti-83 but i want to know how to do it algebraically

thanks!
 
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  • #2
[tex]\left\{ \begin{array}{l} -x ^ 2 - 2xy + 12 = 0 \ \ (1) & -y ^ 2 - 2xy + 12 = 0 \ \ (2) \end{array} \right.[/tex]
You should note that there are 12, and -2xy in both (1), and (2), so it's common to subtract both sides of (1) from both sides of (2), or to subtract both sides of (2) from both sides of (1).
So (1) - (2) gives:
y2 - x2 = 0
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \left[ \begin{array}{l} x = y & x = -y \end{array} \right.[/tex]
So you have 2 cases: x = y and x = -y.
Case 1: x = y,
substitute that back to either (1) or (2), to solve for y, then for x (in this case x = y).
Case 2: x = -y,
substitute that back to either (1) or (2), to solve for y, then for x (in this case x = -y).
Can you go from here?
 
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  • #3
benorin said:
12-x^2 -2xy = 0
12-y^2 - 2xy = 0
subtract 2nd Eqn from the 1st to get
-x^2+y^2=0 so x=+/-y,
go back to the 1st eqn & complete the square to get
(x+y)^2 - y^2 = 12
substitute x=+/-y in the above to get
(+/-y+y)^2 - y^2 = 12
simplify
4y^2 - y^2 = 12 or 0 - y^2 = 12
so
y^2 = 4 or (no solution)
hence
y=+/-2 and x=+/-y= so x=y=+/-2 (the solutions are x=y=2 and x=y=-2)
No complete solution, please! :grumpy:
We all know how intelligent you are!
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