If the polar ice caps melted, would a day be longer or shorter?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of melting polar ice caps on the Earth's rotation and day length, focusing on concepts of angular momentum and rotational inertia.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between angular momentum, rotational inertia, and angular velocity. Questions arise about how the melting ice caps affect these quantities and whether the conservation of angular momentum applies.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing insights into the conservation of angular momentum and the implications of increased rotational inertia. There is a recognition that the redistribution of mass affects the Earth's rotation, leading to a productive exploration of the topic.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the relationship between rotational inertia and angular speed, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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If they melted and water was evenly distributed all over the earth.

From what I guess I should use angular momentum. Ang momentum = I (moment of intertia) X W (angular velocity)

I = mr^2 for a thin hoop...I think I use this for the ice caps

and I for a uniform sphere is 2/5mr^2

so since the uniform sphere will make the angular momentum less, the Earth will turn slower and the day will be longer?

does this sound right? or do the two angular momentums need to be set equal to each other? am i on the right track? thanks
 
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The angular momentum doesn't change; since there's no external torque on the earth, the angular momentum is conserved. What matters is how the rotational inertia of the "earth + ice/water" changes as the ice melts. Does the rotational inertia increase or decrease?
 
The rotation inertia increases because the mass is distributed in more parts around the earth? that means the Earth moves faster though, doesn't it? I am confused
 
The rotational inertia increases because the mass is redistributed further away from the axis of rotation.

How does angular momentum relate to angular speed and rotational inertia?
 
Ang mom. = intertia X ang. speed.

I = all the mr^2 added together
 
Good. So, if you understand that redistributions of mass on the Earth cannot affect the rotational inertia, what can you conclude about the angular speed if the ice caps melt?
 
if ang. momentum is conserved, and intertia goes up, speed must go down...so the days are longer?
 
You got it.
 
cool, thanks for the help Doc Al, much appreciated!
 

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