What is the Stone-Weierstrass Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around the Stone-Weierstrass theorem, specifically focusing on the conditions under which a subalgebra of continuous functions is dense in the space of continuous functions defined on a compact space. Participants are exploring the implications of the theorem's requirements, such as the necessity for the subalgebra to separate points and to include constant functions.

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  • Participants are questioning the meaning of a subalgebra separating points and the implications of this separation for density. There are inquiries about the definition of C(X,ℝ) and the necessity of including constant functions in the subalgebra.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing definitions and prompting each other to consider special cases to deepen understanding. Some participants are reflecting on the definitions and their implications, while others are suggesting practical approaches to explore the theorem further.

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There is a mention of special cases, such as one-point and two-point sets, which may influence the understanding of the theorem's requirements. Additionally, the conversation hints at the need for foundational knowledge in topology and algebra related to the theorem.

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My version of the Stone-Weierstrass theorem is:

Let [itex]X[/itex] be a compact space, and suppose [itex]A[/itex] is a subalgebra of [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex] which separates points of [itex]X[/itex] and contains the constant functions. Then [itex]A[/itex] is dense in [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex].

I can see why the subalgebra would have to separate points (this is how A is dense, no?) but I don't understand HOW it separates points. I mean, isn't [itex]A[/itex] a subalgebra? Which means it is a subset of [itex]X[/itex] and has the same algebraic structure as [itex]X[/itex].

If this subset, [itex]A[/itex] were to separate points of [itex]X[/itex], then if I take any pair of distinct points [itex]x,y \in X[/itex] then there must exist a function [itex]f \in A[/itex] such that [itex]f(x) \neq f(y)[/itex].

Oh, I think I just answered this myself! So if the subalgebra did not separate points, then [itex]A[/itex] is never dense in [itex]X[/itex].

My gripe is, [itex]A[/itex] is a subalgebra of [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex], what is [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex]? And why must the subalgebra contain the constant function? What if it didn't contain the constant function?
 
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Looks to me like you need to review some basic definitions! [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex] is the set of all continuous functions from [itex]X[/itex] to [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]. As for " has the same algebraic structure as [itex]X[/itex]", X doesn't have any algebraic structure- it's just a compact topological space.
 
Looks to me like you need to review some basic definitions!
It's always the definitions isn't it Halls? ;)
[itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex] is the set of all continuous functions from [itex]X[/itex] to [itex]\mathbb{R}[/itex]. As for " has the same algebraic structure as X", X doesn't have any algebraic structure- it's just a compact topological space.
That's what I thought!


Definition of a subalgebra:

A subalgebra of the set of all continuous functions from [itex]X[/itex] to it's underlying field [itex]\mathbb{F}[/itex] is a subspace [itex]A[/itex] such that for [itex]f,g \in A[/itex], [itex]fg \in A[/itex], that is, multiplication of elements of a subalgebra is closed.


Now if you have a compact space [itex]X[/itex], and suppose [itex]A[/itex] is a subalgebra (which means that multiplication defined
above is closed in [itex]A[/itex]) which separates points of [itex]X[/itex] and contains the constant functions. Then the subalgebra [itex]A[/itex] is dense in [itex]C(X,\mathbb{R})[/itex].
Im trying to understand why the part in red needs to be included in this theorem. Why does the subalgebra have to contain the constant functions?
 
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Why does the subalgebra have to contain the constant functions?
Try considering special cases! What if X is a one-point set? A two-point set?
 
why don't you try proving the polynomials are dense in the space of all continuous functions on an interval? maybe you will see what is needed for the proof.[and what if you consider the set of all those continuous functions vanishing at a given point?]
 

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