What is Torsion: Definition and 236 Discussions

In mathematics, specifically in ring theory, a torsion element is an element of a module that yields zero when multiplied by some non-zero-divisor of the ring. The torsion submodule of a module is the submodule formed by the torsion elements. A torsion module is a module that equals its torsion submodule. A module is torsion free if its torsion submodule is reduced to the zero element.
This terminology is more commonly used for modules over a domain, that is, when the regular elements of the ring are all its nonzero elements.
This terminology applies to abelian groups (with "module" and "submodule" replaced by "group" and "subgroup"). This is allowed by the fact that the abelian groups are the modules over the ring of integers (in fact, this is the origin of the terminology, that has been introduced for abelian groups before being generalized to modules).
In the case of groups that are noncommutative, a torsion element is an element of finite order. Contrarily to the commutative case, the torsion elements do not form a subgroup, in general.

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    B Torsion Involving an Off Axis Thrust

    I have tried to draw a force diagram to illustrate the problem. Suppose I have a 2m, 100kg uniform rod with wheels at the bottom. Center of mass is middle of rod. I want to accelerate this rod horizontally while it remains perfectly vertical (constant angle). But the force is coming from a rod...
  2. P

    A Problems with the interpretation of the Torsion tensor and the Lie Bracket

    Hi, I've been doing a course on Tensor calculus by Eigenchris and I've come across this problem where depending on the way I compute/expand the Lie bracket the Torsion tensor always goes to zero. If you have any suggestions please reply, I've had this problem for months and I'm desperate to...
  3. C

    I Visualising Torsion Tensor: Is There a Picture?

    As I understand it, parallel transport of a vector around a closed loop on a manifold can lead (in the tangent space) to 1) an angular change, given by the Riemann curvature tensor or, 2) a translational defect given by the Torsion tensor. I can see how the looping on the curvature of a 2D...
  4. A

    Engineering Is this moment a bending or a torsion?

    Greetings! As you could see the moment try to make beam to rotate in the support plane with the wall which mean for me this moment is on the Z direction but the longitudinal axis is the X direction and I know that for a moment to be torsion it needs to be in a longitudinal direction, but the...
  5. A

    Calculating Torsion: Understanding the Role of Force and Distance

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  6. D

    Prandtl stress function for circular bar in torsion

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  7. Khataro

    Automotive  Wheel + Trans diff + Torsion bar?

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  8. FEAnalyst

    Angle of twist from in-plane displacements in FEA

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  9. L

    I Compute EOM for Spin Connection from Einstein-Palatini Action

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  10. T

    Will this door with torsion spring survive?

    I am trying to design a small box with a hinged door/lid that opens with a torsion spring. When closed, the door will latch onto a mechanism where the open button is, and when the button is pressed this mechanism will slide away, removing the latch out of the way so that the door can fly open...
  11. tracker890 Source h

    Asymmetric beam torsion balance with shear flow

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    A Understanding Differential Forms: Torsion, Spin & Tetrad

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  13. R

    I Why Torsion = 0 => Planar Curve in this Proof

    I was watching a lecture that made the conclusion about the torsion being equal to zero necessitated that the path was planar. The argument went as follows: -Torsion = 0 => B=v, which is a constant -(α⋅v)'=(T⋅v)'= 0 => α⋅v= a, which is a constant (where α is a function describing the path and...
  14. P

    How fast will this torsion spring open a lid?

    Hi, I'm designing a small container with a spring loaded hollow rectangular lid. I want the lid to open when a button is pressed, so I have a torsion spring at the hinge. I want to know if the spring I selected is able to open the lid and also how long it would take to open 90°. Below is a...
  15. Quantum23

    A Energy condition respecting warp drives in Einstein Cartan theory

    I read this paper where if you take the alcubierre metric calaculations while including torsion in GR you get positive energy spin requirements instead of exotic matter. Here is the link: https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.09745 Could it be because a spinning quantum vacuum will be less stiff like a...
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    B Torsion tensor definition doubt

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  17. coldadler

    How can I calculate the reaction forces of a torsion spring on a wall?

    Hi guys, I am working on design where I am using a torsion spring. And I need make an analysis and see the deflection of the walls. How can I calculate the forces that applied from Spring's legs to walls. Thank you all in advance.
  18. L

    Integral for the calculation of torque

    Hello, I found an integral to calculate the torque from the applied torsional shear stress, and I didn't find an explanation of how this integral is deviated. Where does it come from? Could someone explain? T = ∫τ⋅r⋅dA = ∫τ⋅2πr⋅dr, where T is the torque and τ the shear stress. Thanks a lot!
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    Is the Stress in a Twisted Helical Spring Caused by Torsion or Bending?

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  20. D

    Engineering Torsion and deflection of a rectangular beam

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    I Christoffel's symbols: symmetry in the two (lower) indices

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  22. FEAnalyst

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  23. bpaliwal

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  24. AlejandreBurgues908

    Calculate the torsion of a silver thread

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  25. saaaaam

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  27. Math Amateur

    MHB Another Question on Torsion Elements .... D&F Section 10.1, Exercise 8 ....

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  28. Math Amateur

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  29. EastWindBreaks

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  32. yecko

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  33. A

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  35. X

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  37. MrGenetic

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  38. Feodalherren

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  39. B

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  42. Ron19932017

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  43. C

    Torsion and the modulus of rigidity

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  44. DevonZA

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  45. EastWindBreaks

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  46. Buggsy GC

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  47. S

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  48. ramzerimar

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  49. P

    Specifications for elephant-resistant steel poles

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  50. H

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