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    Is time just an illusion?

    Yes, but likewise without time motion and change cannot exist. It seems to me that either we must say that time, motion and change all exist inherently or that none of them do.
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    Metaphysical vs supernatural

    I prefer to think that metaphysics is concerned with first principles, not with supernatural phenomena, even if there are such things. Thus metaphysics would be before physics and not just beyond it, whereas the supernatural would be beyond physics but not before it. (Where 'before' means...
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    Medical Info on the role of self-awareness in evolution?

    If you find anything good please let me know. I read through half a dozen or more papers on evolutionary psychology a while back and there was not one mention of consiousness/awareness. I get the impression it is bad form to suggest that human consciousness has any effect on our behaviour, since...
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    Atoms, Void & Time Reversability

    Sorry but I don't have a link to a peer reviewed paper. Stenger's new book 'The Comprehensible Cosmos' (not yet available) introduces the ideas in depth but I've just picked up the main points from reviews etc. (one in New Scientist). He's suggesting that everything can be reduced to minimal...
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    Is time just an illusion?

    "If time depends on an entity, Then without an entity how can time exist? There is no existent entity. So how can time exist?" This comes from Nagarjuna's 'Mulamadhyamakakarika' (Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way). In this view time would depend on the existence of entities, as has been...
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    Is a game like chess solvable ?

    That was my thought as well. Chess is sometimes used as an example of a formal axiomatic system, and it seems to me a stalemate equates to an undecidable theorem. Don't know if this analogy really holds up though.
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    Atoms, Void & Time Reversability

    Victor Stenger has proposed a model of the universe consisting only of atoms, void and time reversability. I like this idea, partly because it's almost simple enough for me to understand. But I have a problem with it. He suggests that the universe can be explained as atoms and void, as per...
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    Harmonic Vibration Hypothesis

    That clarifies things. Thanks.
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    Thanks. Good point about energy. It appears that the net energy contained in the universe is zero, so score one to the mystics again. I expect the moderators are getting restless so I'm going to drop out of this one before they strike. When I get around to it I'm going to request a new...
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    Harmonic Vibration Hypothesis

    Psykostx - I also am more musician than physicist, and think I see what you're getting at. I wonder if the connection between the energy levels of random quantum drums and the harmonic properties of Riemann's non-trivial zeros is relevant here. I don't understand much about either, but to me it...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    Ah. Now I have a much better idea of what you're suggesting. I agree that words like omnipresent, eternal etc. would refer only to aspects of the absolute and so would be misleading. It would be more accurate to say, and I think Blavatsky would have agreed, that the Absolute has all aspects...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    I'm not qualified to answer this but can say a couple of things. First, it is said that what passes from one life to another is not our self or ego. That would die along with our body or, rather, it never existed in the first place. Second, what is at work here are purely deterministic forces or...
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    Listserve Problem

    Yeah, you're right. I did read the manual at that link but found it a little ambiguous.Thanks.
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    Listserve Problem

    Does anybody here use listserve? I'm having trouble getting my command lines right and can't find the relevant instructions. Specifically, I want to switch to 'digest' mode but the instruction "digest" doesn't do it, nor does "listname digest", and nor does "digest listname". What am I missing?
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    PIT2 - Yes, you're right about the esoteric view of functional consciousness. It is this form of consciousness which by analysis and meditative practice is shown to have only a dependent existence, much as neuroscientists conclude. In this view the world has three aspects, the physical, the...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    I mentioned implicate/explicate because I wondered whether you were proposing something along the lines of David Bohm. He proposes there are these two levels of order in the universe, and this seemed to connect with some of what you said. Maybe not. I agree with your last point, about being...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    Still struggling a bit. Would it be roughly equivalent to say that the Absolute has two aspects, the implicate and the explicate, where the implicate is not extended in spacetime and the explicate is? Part of the reason for this suggestion is that if these two points are 'things' this would...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    I'm afraid I have no interest in this sort of argument. It is perfectly obvious that you do not know whether consciousness is a late arrival in the universe or whether it is not. It is also perfectly obvious that there is no 'scientific' (naturalistic) way to test whether it is or not. What...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    Tournesol I genuinely do not understand how you reach your conclusions. The process seems to have nothing whatsoever to do with evidence or reasoning. The only argument you make in support of your idea is that Occam's razor suggests that you're right. I'd argue that it suggests the mystics...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    I'm not sure I see what you're getting at here. Why have two points when you could have one with an inside and an outside? Are you suggesting that what is absolute cannot be accurately called something or nothing?
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    No, of course not. If you consider what you are claiming here you'll see that this is the tactic you have inadvertently adopted. Your claim is not scientific. There is no evidence, scientific or otherwise, to suggest that consciousness is a late arrival in the cosmos. It is this fact that...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    I'm talking about scientific facts not guesswork. I agree (Mickey) that methodologies are often philosophies. All I meant was that to take an eclectic approach to a study of mysticism is not to invent a new philosophy but just to make a choice of approach. In the end however eclectic we are...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    Sorry, I don't get it. What are these dimensionless points?
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    I hope I've not given the impression of picking and choosing from among the scientific facts, for I accept them all unreservedly. The mystical cosmology/perennial philosophy contradicts no scientific facts. (The metaphysical speculations of many scientists, however, are another matter). Where...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    That's true. Until someone defines NAM I wouldn't know whether it is mysticism proper or not. I can only take my cue from the article someone posted earlier, and that was not about mysticism. This discussion is first time I've heard any reference to New Age mysticism. To me the term 'New...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    Yes, and Dennett would have a point in a roundabout sort of way. Schrodinger chooses his words very carefully, as one would expect from a good physicist, and perhaps more carefully that it seems. He does not say that there is no loss of personal existence. The illusory nature of the self is said...
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    The Absolute & Relative

    As you say, we both seem to trying to get to grips with each other's terms. But this time I can't make the translation. One problem is your comment: 'We are relative and never become true or false.". But I see true/false as relative terms that cannot apply to the Absolute, only to its aspects.
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    A Dualist Phoenix

    Yes, it does seem to. This is the underlying issue.
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    The Foundations of Reality

    I'm afraid I can't figure out how this is connected with anything I've said or asked. I asked some in my last post which are unanswered. But there's too much going on here for you to deal with the issues I wanted to focus on. As I'm not going to get to grips with your idea this way I'm going...
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    What knowledge mysticism provides?

    Ah. Thanks then. I find his ideas fascinating. Yes, this is one of the reasons his view is consistent with that of the mystics. Exactly. It cannot actually be Nothing. In this description the universe arises from the Void, but this Void should not be confused with Nothing. It arises by a...
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