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    Where does life come from?

    Don't be like that. You made a claim about the nature of life, which I didn't think accurately represented it. I offered an alternative definition. Perhaps "complicated" could be replaced by something more accurate and meaningful. I want a condition that captures the fact that life seems to...
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    Where does life come from?

    And it's questionable whether that would be considered life, or just part of the non-life processes which eventually led to the more complicated processes we call life. I'd go with the latter. If we were to try to pinpoint the absolute first process which one could call life under my...
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    Where does life come from?

    A refrigerator does not locally decrease entropy in a roundabout way. It does so in a rather direct way. Similarly, when a crystal forms, it does so in a direct way, involving simple processes. If you look at a living cell, on the other hand, it involves complicated enzymes and catalysts...
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    Where does life come from?

    We already have computer programs which can self-reproduce: viruses. Some even "evolve", randomly changing bits to avoid detection. The only ways one might separate computer viruses from "life" proper are the following: 1) Computer viruses depend on an existing system (namely, computers of...
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