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    B Cosmological redshift

    In other words get off the site and don't bother us. With pleasure
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    B Cosmological redshift

    I understand that Arp’s work has not been confirmed but then two patches to the standard model, dark matter and energy have not been confirmed yet either. The book is from 20 years ago and has been take seriously by Hoyle, Narlikar, Geoffrey and Margaret Burbidge and many other reputable...
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    B Cosmological redshift

    Have a look at the book 'Seeing Red' by Halton Arp for a nice well presented alternative view of the origins of redshift.
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    B Is the kinetic energy of a particle quantized?

    So as far as I can see the kinetic energy a particle could be continuous but we have no way of measuring it. We know it is quantized when it is in a system where we give it quantized pushes. So we don't know much and there is no experiment we can do to understand my original question (thanks...
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    B Is the kinetic energy of a particle quantized?

    Is the kinetic energy of a particle quantized? Does it increase and decrease in discreet amounts?
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    B Gravitational Redshift of a laser

    Excuse me if I shift to cosmology. From what I understand the observed red shift of stars should come from three factors - according to the present model - First is a red shift given by the recession velocity (or general expansion of the Universe) second by the red shift caused by light having...
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    B Gravitational Redshift of a laser

    What if I use the lasers as clocks - measure the pulses, divide many times and put the data to a readout. Shouldn't the clock (laser) on the mountain be slower? I do understand that light as it falls into a gravitational field it gains energy and moves to blue and the opposite happens as light...
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    B Gravitational Redshift of a laser

    If we run two identical lasers and put one at sea level and one on top of a high mountain, will they operate at different frequencies?
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    B What is a clock?

    At least I got this about atomic clocks which had previously been excluded by other posts. @Peter thanks for the warning of a warning!
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    B What is a clock?

    Is this the question you want me to answer? Rather offensive actually. You imply that aside from being ignorant (which I admit) I am also stupid. What I have been trying to ask is inertia a factor in the stability of clocks? It is in my pendulum clock, my balance wheel watch and in the...
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    B What is a clock?

    This is just what I was trying to understand. The stability of the electronic clock is at least partially based on the fact that the mass is fixed. I would like to say more but it is not a subject for this forum.
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    B What is a clock?

    So if the mass of the electron changes (in my imaginary world) does the transition frequency change?
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    B What is a clock?

    I realize there it isn't possible to pin down shape of the nucleus or where any bits are at any one time but is there movement or rotation in the nucleus? I have heard that "spin" is actually spin with angular momentum and other that say it is "intrinsic" (whatever that means) and doesn't...
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    B What is a clock?

    OK as I said I’m not the expert. But then you say: Here it sounds as if you are not sure how it works and I never suggested it might be a sphere. You say: Well it should be or if it is not then something is wrong – IMHO- tell somebody who has just had his car smashed by inertial forces “well...
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    B What is a clock?

    I got this from: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Nuclear/nspin.html “nuclei often act as if they are a single entity with intrinsic angular momentum I. Associated with each nuclear spin is a nuclear magnetic moment which produces magnetic interactions with its environment.” As I...
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    B What is a clock?

    I do understand English. Most people in this thread talked about how to synchronise clocks - very little on the physics. Cut me out if you wish. Tired of being bullied by the powers on this forum.
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    B What is a clock?

    You qualify the above with (pendulum). Isn't it possible that if you drill down into the mechanism of all clocks you will find Inertial mass somewhere in the regulating mechanism. Thanks, this is what interests me, the how or physics of the regulating mechanisms of clocks.
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    B A tale of three clocks

    Thanks Peter
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    B A tale of three clocks

    The various versions have muddied the waters. The one that needs explanation and inclusion is the real simple one – the one where I spin around, my hands are pulled out and the stars spin around me – or Mach 0. As you point out there are dents in Mach’s principle (talking about Mach0 here) –...
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    B A tale of three clocks

    I realize that you and the other leaders & moderators of this forum are not fans of Mach’s principle. This has been made clear to me by the moderators as some of my previous comments were deleted from another conversation. I thank you very much for you explanations. I will try to get my head...
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    B A tale of three clocks

    So we are back at Mach's principle. Both of your platforms are rotating in relation to the stars. So not only is the kinetic energy of the clock tied to the stars but also its tick rate. Or that is how I see it! IMHO as they say
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    B A tale of three clocks

    The experiment done by Hafele & Keating took clocks around the world in two directions and compared the readout to a static clock to measure time dilation effects. Everything fitted nicely with Einstein’s predictions. To avoid confusion let’s move the clocks way out in space to a real inertial...
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    B What is a clock?

    I said: How do we decide what is a clock and how do clocks that rely on different technologies stay synchronized? The how was the interesting part for me. That was the discussion that I hoped for - the physics of clocks - how do clocks that rely of different principles stay synchronized? (or...
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    B What is a clock?

    Not in the least. Most people who contributed to this little discussion talked about synchronizing clocks. I'm not interested in that at all. This above is interesting to me - how clocks work - for example the balance wheel clock as perfected by Harrison shifts energy between the inertia of...
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    B What is a clock?

    These quoted are all "good" clocks. It is fairly easy to see them synchronized. I didn't say that we didn't need another clock. It is obvious that a clock cannot exist by itself. The existence of one clock implies a second clock.
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    B What is a clock?

    I just probably didn't word the question very well. What I am really interested in is how clocks work. What is the process in one type of clock that makes it synchronize well with another type of clock? Is there a common factor in good clocks that allows the different technologies to offer a...
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    B What is a clock?

    The question is: What is it that stabilizes the clock rate? And does the inertial weight/mass of the bits form part of the stabilizing mechanism?
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    B What is a clock?

    From: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Nuclear/nspin.html#c1 "Nuclear Spin It is common practice to represent the total angular momentum of a nucleus by the symbol I and to call it "nuclear spin". For electrons in atoms we make a clear distinction between electron spin and electron...
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    B What is a clock?

    Thanks Russ, I like this:
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    B What is a clock?

    No not a research paper. Trying to get my own thoughts in some sort of a shape. So in my clock one of the stabilizers is the inertial weight of the pendulum. Does the inertial weight of the bits of the cesium atom provide stability to the atomic clock?
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