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    News Thank God for President Bush

    Well, the fact that Bush decided to use his Veterans Day speech to attack his opponents instead of going to the tomb of the unknowns is just stupid. Hmmm let's leave the wreath laying to the VP to make a partisan attack.
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    News Ohio 2005 vote

    http://vote2005.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/00.htm [Broken] Penguion: From your source from the above link Prop 73: yes 44 47.4 no 56 52.6 difference 3% Prop 74: yes 46 45 no 54 55 difference 1% Prop 75: yes 52 46.6 no 47 53.4 difference 5% Prop 76: yes 34 38 no 66 62...
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    News New SC judge nominated

    You already can.
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    News Kansas votes to endorse ignorance

    Well, there are two forms of ID, young Earth (8000 y/o AND the guiding hand) as well as old Earth (just the guiding hand).
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    News Kansas votes to endorse ignorance

    False. The Catholic view is that God created everything (the big bang); however, evolution is not controlled by God. ID says something is guiding evolution.
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    News Kansas votes to endorse ignorance

    Because ID is NOT science while evolution IS. The scientific method (the thing that defines science) has the following steps: 1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena. 2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often...
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    News Kansas votes to endorse ignorance

    Ignorace does not constitute scientific exaggerations. Science has been able to postulate and prove many aspects of evolutionary theory. We---humans---can now trace specific genes from the most advanced creatures all the way back to bacteria. We have traced the progress of fishes to amphibians...
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    News Kansas votes to endorse ignorance

    Here, I'll quote myself as a retor: Quoting yourself does not make your belief more right. You made some claims---well, prove them.
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    News Bush favors torture

    McCain is mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore! http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1105mccain-torture05.html [Broken]
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    News They said it - Impeachment

    Well, we now have proof that the WH knew MONTHS before it started trumpeting the ties between Al-Queida and Saddam that those ties never existed. So, if the admin KNEW the intel was wrong and used it anyway is that not lying...
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    News Be a nice little commie

    Ahhh, now we make stuff up to support your position and then try to redirect the conversation to avoid addressing this lie. Burger did not commit treason. In fact, Rove/Libby did a worse thing by outing an agent---join the military and get a secret clearance(I've got mine still) and you'll learn...
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    News Be a nice little commie

    Wow, how quickly you changed your tune. You went from the food for oil scandle (businessmen) to directly charging Clinton and the UN for endangering lives. Again, you dodged the real issue. Bush and his ilk are hurting this country's ability to gather intelligence while ENDANGERING American...
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    News Be a nice little commie

    I wonder how many republicans and democrats(officials elected) were involved? Hmmmm. Nope, OUR government endangering its OWN agents is MUCH worse. We are sabotaging ourselves from the top down.
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    News Be a nice little commie

    LIBBY(and Rove) ENDANGERED LIVES! They endangered lives to hush a critic. They endangered lives to keep support for a needless war. LIBBY(and Rove) ENDANGERED LIVES! Now, you go ahead and list ALL of the democratic and republican scandals you know of and we'll see how many pale in comparison...
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    News Be a nice little commie

    No, it's called a diversion. Bush and company are not doing too well. Poll numbers slipping. Republicans and Dems castigating Bush and his ilk. Libby going to trial with Rove and Cheney still on the burner. What's a republican to do? Oh I know, attack Hil and Bill. We ALL know Hil is the Dem...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    Libby is going the Reagan route "I can't be expected to remember a series of conversations..." Why not, I tend to remember basic details of important conversations for years. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/29/leak.probe.ap/index.html [Broken] Andrew Sullivan has a good write up...
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    News We are witnessing the criminalization of conservative politics

    They criminalize themselves: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Trent-Lott-m.mov [Broken]
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    Who told you this? What powers does he lack?
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    What's the big deal? She wasn't undercover---or was she? http://movies.crooksandliars.com/The-Situation-Room-Larry-Johnson.mov [Broken]
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    News The coming Miers mire

    Miers withdraws http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/politics/politicsspecial1/27cnd-scotus.html?hp&ex=1130472000&en=31b38b4fcab4d910&ei=5094&partner=homepage http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/27/miers.nominations/index.html
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    News Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay

    More money problems for DeLay... http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/26/delay.defense.fund.ap/index.html [Broken]
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    News Republican lies used to trick the public

    I'd say Bush's poll number decline is due to scandle (Rove, Libby) as well as Miers and the view that the US is doing poorly in Iraq. That same poll says: Bush has shown incompetence in selection as well as in action. People who were blinded by terrorism-Iraq-911 are now seeing Bush for who...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    I didn't even think of that! Too funny.
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    Look what I found. Would the special prosecuter make a web page for nothing or will we see some major things coming down the pipe? http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/index.html [Broken]
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    News 824 New Armored Humvees sitting in lot in Kuwait

    Yes, the US is legally at war. Just like the US (SC ruled as much way back in the day) was at war in Viet Nam. Congress has authorized the war by funding it. The president has a legal "right" if you will to use the military for 90 days before congressional acquescence is needed. We have been...
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    News 824 New Armored Humvees sitting in lot in Kuwait

    Governments can take over patents in times of need. War generally falls under this category.
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    News Will Tom DeLay be Convicted?

    I'm of a different opinion: These indictments are a direct result of DeLeys own testimony to the Grand Jury. In addition the channeling of money ($190,000 of corporate money to the RNC and $190,000 worth of RNC money to candidates in one day) is exceedingly apparent and was done to circumvent...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    The very best thing Bush can do is to admit he was wrong, and replace all of his ill-advisors. Reagan did this in 85-86 because of Iran-Contra. Reagan also accepted responsibility for his failings either direct or indirect on various occasions. Bush will continue to weaken as long as he...
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    News Rice refuses to predict US out of Iraq within ten years

    Oh c'mon! You think by setting a 5 year timetable we will somehow alter the insurgency? Hell, the admin keeps saying "We don't want them to know when we are leaving because they will just wait for us to leave." Well, if we set a five year timetable AND they do wait for us to leave(unlikely but...
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    News The coming Miers mire

    Bork of all people is putting his 2 cents in: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007424 I find it odd how the conservatives keep sloganeering "liberal courts" when 7 of 9 justices on the SC were appointed by conservative republican presidents. Odd don't you think?
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    News Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay

    Booked: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/20/Delay.booking/index.html
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    News Cheney resigning?

    Some event had to be the first. Iraq might have been the first time they fabricated evidence to justify an idea---welcome to the http://www.newamericancentury.org/". So, if this wasnt their first deceit then what was might I ask? Why does his short time in office somehow make the deciet OK?
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    News Cheney resigning?

    Yes, I did miss that post Thanks, and sorry tide for the outburst about not supplying sources. I'll now rant about supplying primary sources and not opinion sources. Tide you do realize that two of your "sources" are opinion not primary sources though don't you? Also, your Newsmax "article"...
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    News Cheney resigning?

    If you make a statement then you should back it up. This kind of answer OTOH makes it seem like you cannot find the proof yourself or that the proof itself never existed outside of newsmax and as such you lose all credibility. A lot of people here disagree; however, the adult conversations...
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    News Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay

    No, you made some allegations. You have a history of stating things w/out proof. I asked for proof---real proof. You can start by digging up the Pelosi fiasco and maybe you'll see the difference when doing so. You're not being asked to prove a negative you are being asked to put your money were...
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    News Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay

    Wow, you don't read the news do you? How about you back your claims with some evidence please.
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    News What will happen to Mrs. Miers?

    Well, I'm seeing Bork here, so my vote would have been she wouldn't even make it to the floor. I chose the next best thing.
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    News What will happen to Mrs. Miers?

    Where's "She will not even make it to the floor"?
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    News The coming Miers mire

    Miers is really wowing the Senate Judiciary. Let's see, she has impressed the right wingnuts (Robertson and Dobbson), she has rankled the conservatives, she has delighted the dems by being, well we'll see but the dems are happy she was nominated for now. On top of everything to date you'd think...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    The rats are turning on each other now: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Second_Cheney_aide_cooperating_in_leak_1019.html Dick, you're next hehehehe
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    Juicy news from the rumor mill: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheney_aide_cooperating_with_CIA_outing_1018.html
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    News Bush caught staging meeting with troops

    TDS coverage: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Teleconference.mov [Broken]
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    News Bush caught staging meeting with troops

    On one side you have a group of people bring the WH's use of propaganda and lies to the fore. On the other you have a group of people who refuse to see the facts (scripted scripted scripted) and instead focus in on minutiae to subvert the real discussion. One side favors following Bush's 2000...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    Enjoy: http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Covert_Agent_Identity_Protection_Act [Broken] http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html [Broken] http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000421----000-.html [Broken]...
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    News Bush caught staging meeting with troops

    The case has been supported Kat. We have shown video proof that the president's comments were scripted. We have linked to all major news sources who tell us the event was billed as a spontaneous back and forth. The event was scripted. The event billing was a lie. The event used the troops to...
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    News Bush caught staging meeting with troops

    So, how about this being a "spontaneous back-and forth". How do account for that. It was neither spontaneous (a lie from the WH) nor a back-and-forth. It was the president saying his lines and the soldiers saying theirs (they may have written them but once rehersed they bacome lines in a play)...
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    News Why is the Rove/Plame issue important?

    It seems the WH anticipates a Rove indictment: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/14/AR2005101402076.html
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    News Should the electoral college be abolished?

    This idea of a winner take all system is not really true. There have been electoral voters who have defied the norm and cast a vote for the other guy. The system works out the way it does because the party of the candidate who wins the state chooses the electoral voters who then choose to vote...
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    News Should the electoral college be abolished?

    Iraq doesn't even have a constitution. Besides how or why does this even matter?
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    News Should the electoral college be abolished?

    The constitution was written to prevent majority rule. Majority rule is like asking two wolves and a lamb what's for dinner---I believe that's how it goes. [edit] I keep saying this---some day I will learn to type.
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