I find it incredible that so many economists and smart people still believe that "More Demand for Goods and Services will Create More Employment".
This no longer holds:
1) We live in mostly automatic societies - economies where most work is no longer needed, is automated, is optimized and...
Another idea that comes in mind is if the universe is actually only 2 dimensional and the depth dimension really is a size dimension. If something is far away it looks smaller because it IS smaller. When we take a picture and project a 3 dimensional world on a 2 dimensional picture maybe we are...
Is size circular ? If physics discovers that A is composed of B, and B of C, this would be a typical reductionist view A -> B -> C. Now imagine that at the Planck level C ends up being composed of a smaller A, and the above loop goes on forever. If you were at any given size level you could say...
You can look at:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=149592 [Broken]
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=117562
The computer example was just an idea. True that a computer could end up inventing and simulating all its registers and logic gates and figure itself...
Yes, if you look at some of my last posts you will see some ideas I have reached on this. The fact that there is a starting point that we automatically have in our mind before we even start thinking, and this is made up of logic-math-language-space-time means that we will never be able to...
I agree somewhat with you, when you reach the edge of knowledge it is hard to express thoughts.
If you look at science and the laws of physics from a far enough point of view, they are just quirk assignments, they have no intrinsic necessity. This does not mean they do not work or that they...
Matter is infinite, our universe contains within itself all the universes that are not part of it, that are outside our universe. It also contains all the possible universes.
If matter is self interacting, then maybe it is simply a self invention, it creates itself by observing itself, it may...
OK. Yes the idea is more in the arena of philosophy or metaphysics. But if we look at a material system composed of two items, one item is a "scientist" thinking, experimenting and interacting with another item that is an experimental apparatus configured in a certain way, well the total of...
Anything could be considered impossible or simply everyday routine. It is mostly tied up to our subjective perception of things. Anyways the following thread may help understand better:
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=149592 [Broken]
So then we are not made up of matter ? what are we made up of, pure spirit ? are we looking at the universe from OUTSIDE the universe ? We are matter looking at itself and talking to itself. Maybe a large complex assembly of matter organized in a certain way, but WE ARE MATTER THAT IS LOOKING...
Aside from the idea that MATTER KNOWS ITSELF, HENCE IT IS ACTUALLY SIMPLY TALKING TO ITSELF SO CAN UNDERSTAND AND DECODE ITSELF, there are two other important points to keep in mind:
1) Natural language reduces to being purely mathematical when all is said and done. The decomposing of a Natural...
Another interesting point is the debate between creationists and natural evolutionists. What makes a magic assignment of the creation by a god more or less miraculous or incredible then a sequence of causes and effects that lead to the same result ? They can both be seen as totally miraculous...
The reason why mathematics is so effective is because MATTER KNOWS ITSELF. Why wouldn't matter be able to decode itself ? After all we are simply matter talking to itself, decoding itself and ultimately manipulating itself. So matter can discover its own laws and regularities, so why be...
Interesting. It shows how logic-mathematics can be so general as to include and model anything imaginable. To truly get to something different or new we would have to literally get out of the box; modify our neural circuits, mental neural networks, their connections to emotions, new complex and...
Explanations are paintings or drawings. If in the future we somehow lived inside a computer simulation where objects popped into existence from nowhere and then dissappeared or where we could walk on water if we said a magic formula and any other extravagant miraculous phenomena existed, then we...
Interesting. Then what would happen if the universe was an INFINITE DIMENSIONAL UNIVERSE ? Then the big bang could be seen as some small items in a set of hidden dimensions reaching their limits and all of a sudden start expanding in our 3 dimensional universe. Or maybe the dimensions are...
Thinking about reductionism, it may be that there is no absolute size. The universe may be made in such a way that as we get to smaller and smaller items at a certain point we get to (maybe at 10^-100 cm) back to the universe all over again. Like if we look inside an imaginary microscope and get...
Any manipulation inside the brain will always be mathematical-logical. As I said, "Natural Language" itself is a pure logical-mathematical language only it uses very high abstractions and rules of engagement.
Are the ultimate elementary particles of reality simply numbers ? When everything...
Could nature not be mathematical ? Can we imagine any kind of relationship between items that is NOT mathematical ? No, we can't, even the most confusing - contradictory - random relation or structure can be broken down into some kinds of mathematical items. Natural language itself is just a...
Not even logical consistency is necessary. Any universe with any structure, even contradictory, even a random sequence of symbols-concepts-contradictions can describe or be the substrate of a random arbitrary universe.
To be more precise science is also carved out from, aside from...
Then truth is relative to our arbitrary structure. If atoms were made up of small elvis presleys or any other thing, it would not matter, they could be made up of any structure and have any kinds of properties and laws associated with them. That they happen to be what they are, governed by...
What's the difference between £$&GYGG<<<>$DMN/&G%RG and E=mc^2 ?
They are both an arbitrary sequence of symbols, only that the second has a "consequence" for us humans, it maps to a certain way we humans, as an arbitrary stable energy structure, interact with the world. This interaction...
At what point can we ever say we totally understand the world ? When would we ever be completely satisfied ? I suspect that complete total understanding of the world (universe ?, reality ? ) is not even conceivable since there is no way to even know when we have reached it. In the end it may...
Yes, you are correct. What do you think a physicist would answer ? Shut up and calculate. Physics really doesn't exist at all, what we have is a series of material configurations that behave according to laws that seem to work. We have contraptions, measurements and imaginary models that have a...
I'll take that back. Even if you have 2 perfect equivalent crystals, they would be slightly different because their modes of oscillation would not coincide exactly. They would have to be at absolute zero temperature, and even 2 electrons are not mathematically equal because their virtual...
If you know quantum theory, well the theory operates on and is experimentally demonstrated that elementary particles like electrons are exactly equal in all senses as they are completely interchangeable and indistinguishable. All chemistry works on this and there is no way to distinguish 2...
In various threads dealing with why mathematics is so good at describing physics, the fact that elementary particles are exactly equivalent is really weird. Are any 2 electrons exactly equal in all possible mathematical sense ? Is this really conceivable and possible ? I find it hard to imagine...
But that's what makes philosophy so pretty. You can speculate and invent all you want and get away with it! It has no goal, no solid INTENTION like math does. So if in physics you say I don't know what is present at 10^-1000000 mm or you say it can't exist, well I can use philosophy to make up...
So could a blind person have discovered relativity or all the math involved ? Could a person who cannot see have discovered geometry and its laws ? Then is math dependent on what sense organs we have, how they are organized, how they encode information and how our mind decodes it or uses it...
The idea that the universe is simply math-geometry and there is no matter is spooky and frightening. So then our goal is to escape any form of logic and get as far away as possible of any rational perception of the universe. This could be achieved by tricking math-logic to work for us by...
Fantastic link !
I especailly like the DVD example. So then, mathematics is a kind of compression algorithm upon physics-reality. In that case "Natural Language" is an even more powerful compression algorithm. In fact if you say "street", it is a simple functional concept, used within a...
I have commented a lot on these, search some of my posts. Also oldtobor has written about these items. What I find amazing is how Einstein and others using pure math deduced general relativity! Now that is really something that makes you think. It is as if the fundamentals of the universe are...
Thanks a lot for your answers. As I imagined there are all kinds of cases, and a lot depends on where you live etc. Just some time ago someone told me the mechanical engineers are a lot better off than software people because they have a stable well defined skill set that is always valid, you...
Ok, let's not get into complicated rich-poor debates left-right etc. It is a very complicated argument and very subjective, the guy in Canada has 5 cars, he sees the world well off, another guy gets laid off he sees the world bad etc. Maybe what I think has changed is the BARRIER TO ENTRANCE...
I would say that most of humanity for most of its history has lived in extreme poverty and the fact that from 1950-2000 there was so much increase in wealth was JUST A QUIRK COMBINATION OF ECONOMIC VARIABLES. That increase is now descreasing and will so in the future at an ever faster rate. We...
Numbers are real if not even extremely moderate and conservative. In the US you're closer to 600 dollars a month for a 1 bed home and min. pay is 800 dollars. If you factor in other inflation like health care and other items (gas etc). you get that we are getting poorer at a more extreme rate. I...
In the year 3 million we may have a particle accelerator of 10^9 km. So then we may see 10^-10*10^-10=10^-20 mm. Planck scale is 10^-40 mm. So we still won't see space-time fluctuations. At 10^-100000 mm there will always be a mystery, the observable universe is actually limited in HOW SMALL WE...
This is a metaphysical theory based on fake science which is the only real science since real science is based on invented ideas of an arbitrary mind structure.
On one hand the entire basic assumption of science is that we can simplify reality by ignoring the details and creating logical...
Random details are all those intricate little quirks you see in everything around you, like the stones on a road, the casual tree alignments, cracks and all the quirky patterns of car seats and textiles etc. Look at anything very closely and you will see all kinds of odd details. The beauty of...
And in fact atoms do have random details and matter is composed of an infinite number of levels each having random details all the way down to the Planck level. Therefore there are no laws of physics and matter is based on nothing. That is why quantum physics is based on chance, "random"...
Atoms have no random details ?
If you look at anything macroscopic there is a lot of random details. Like the leaves on a road, or the cracks in a wall etc. Why don't atoms have any random details? They are perfectly round with "points" (electrons) that circulate them. OK, they are not...
Even the assumption of knowing or not knowing can be manipulated. Why know more or less ? if we had a direct manipulation of our neural circuits we could change the "knowledge configuration" and create any kind of combination including all kinds of false and invented knowledge. Or we can mix...
I think you pinpointed down a major aspect of mathematics in general. It is an invention in as far as it is used according to our personal needs and uses. If plus or minus 10,000 km of precision is not important, most of our math is irrelevant in as far as it calculates things according to how...
So then pure determinism can really never be achieved. If you consider the extreme case of determinism where we have a complete set of equations that can determine exactly where a particle will be at a given time, we will always say "the particle will be 10.133949395949950409504 microns from...
What is the difference between saying the "position of a particle is at 1.32 microns plus or minus 0.0010 microns" or saying it is exactly at "1.3245456 microns" ? Is this so important ? and then at what point will the precision be sufficient to say you know exactly where it is ? It will never...
Let's play a game of demolishing all possible assumptions:
1) why ask why ? so my philosophy doesn't ask why anymore it just assigns arbitrary false facts...
2) why execute any thought ? So my philosophy doesn't contain any thought anymore
So I can say the mind is a car tire and it's...
The only thing that will be left to study in the future is philosophy. It is science that will end. Once all our practical scientific-technical problems have been solved, and we can manipulate all matter and ourselves infinitely, then only philosophy-metaphysics-art will be left, and that study...
Trying to understand metaphysical problems in philosophy always ends up questioning more fundamental assumptions as it proceeds. Why "understand" more or less ? Why use any form of logic ? What exactly are we trying to reach ? These ideas go on forever and as you proceed you slowly take apart...
You are correct, this infinity makes no causal difference (I don't know what existence means...). Another possible model is that A is made up of 2 A and each A is made up of 2 A forever.
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after magnification is composed of (or has elementary particles the same but smaller (?) ) so...
I read some time back that fractals do something similar. The details go on forever and size as we know it doesn't even make any sense since the details sometimes repeat all over again as magnification continues. It is as if size is only a local perception we have but is not a global property of...