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    Good Books

    Hey, for entertainment the Dune trilogy is fantastic. It includes the christ drama, etc And then, there's always Johnathan Livingston Seagull. The Source is a great piece of fiction to show how we evolved our beliefs (fictionalized, of course). love&peace, olde drunk
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    Implications of a single consciousness

    Perhaps an over-simplification, but most olde philosophers and prophets have said that we are 'one'. While we may have our unique qualities, we are still part of a universal consciousness. Our freewill allows us to explore areas of experience that expand the universal consciousness. Is the...
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    What if there was a war between all good and all evil people?

    I will grant you that the 'movers' or 'leaders' are of better means. Unfortunately, 90% of the casualties of any violent act -war- are among the lower middle and low income strata. Yes, a wealthy fanatic may choose to be a martyr, but after that all volunteers are from the 'ignorant' masses...
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    Is Strong Atheism Logical?

    Hey, the eastern philosophies say that we are just 'here'; so enjoy it. What's wrong with that? Does there have to be a reason? Why do we need a reason? Boy, our need for a reason sure gives the people that want to organize a religion and make money all the power. Better to believe in self...
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    HUMAN LIFE:Who has the final Word?

    I voted to turn off only because this is such a personal issue that everyone should have the choice to do as they see fit. If I was the husband and she had told me that she never wanted to be a vegetable then I would pull the plug. Period. The courts have no right to make decisions on this...
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    Is Strong Atheism Logical?

    Personally, I think it is much better to be an atheist than to believe in a traditional definition of god. Perhaps a working definition of god would make for better discussion. All, options (theist, atheist, agnostic, etc) are valid and have value based on what you choose to believe and...
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    Good Books

    Good question! Most of us study philosophy so that we can develop our own philosophy. This would explore most ideas. If you are working for a post grad degree, etc this would only confuse the issue. This book helped me understand my role in the universe and this world. It is not religious...
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    Illusions in every day life

    The human brain can't understand because, if it did, it would ruin the value of being physical. We enter this world to experience being physical and yet, our unconscious mind knows that there is a broader reality. Personally, I suspect we use the physical experience to learn how to use...
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    Good Books

    This might get deleted, but try "The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane Roberts. It was originally published by Prentice-Hall and copies are available on e-Bay. Not a run of the mill view and should open your mind to all possibilities. It is not for everyone. love&peace, olde drunk
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    What if there was a war between all good and all evil people?

    I am sure that you and others will not like this answer, but, it was Europe's 'fear' of war that allowed Hitler to gain his power, etc. Keep in mind what has been said earlier or on another thread, if the Germans did not have a sense of hopeless, helplessness they would not have allowed Hitler...
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    What if there was a war between all good and all evil people?

    The evil guy is always the 'udder guy', there is no real good and evil. it is a subjective excercise. Accept pacificism and you will understand. It isn't until you look at other ways of handling problems that you see the futility of any war or any violence. You are only killing or harming...
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    Illusions in every day life

    I come from the perspective that our physical reality is a valid illusion. This reality is to the broader reality what our dreams are to this reality. Motion can be said to be an illusion in so far as we might be focused in this reality in a very quick stop frame sequence. Meaning that our...
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    What if there was a war between all good and all evil people?

    thread killer! there are no good or evil people. it's an olde saw, but all people, by nature, are good. unfortunately, some of their acts are considered evil or bad. within the theory of probable worlds/futures - you will have a victor based on your expectations, fears and beliefs. the...
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    When Rebutting Arguments For the Existence of God

    in another thread i offered that a very workable definition of god would be a consciousness gestalt. it is extremely difficult to believe that our consciousness only exists for a nano-second when measured against eternity. so if we are a consiousness belonging to a gestalt wherein the whole is...
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    Violence or Nonviolence

    nah, not fantasy. if you believe in jungle law then your world will be very simplistic and violent. i have spent my time in the army, in the city, etc so it's more than avoidance. the only way to improve on the future of our world is thru peaceful intelligent altruism. i've lived long...
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    Where were you before you born?

    everything about you is small??? lol,
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    Violence or Nonviolence

    well now is the time for academia to do it's real job. the intellegensia is much more powerful than any army. you can imprison my body but not my mind or spirit. why fear marxists or neocons?? there is value in all disciplines. the academic community needs to get behind nader or the green...
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    Why? is man considered intelligent if .

    Doctordick, thank you for your addition. Might I add that most people want an externalized god, much like having parents. there's always someone to fall back on. being olde, and now an orphan, it is easier to see. who the hell wants all the responsibility of being 100% responsible for their...
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    Why? is man considered intelligent if .

    it all depends on your definition of god. i am reasonably confident that the god of traditional religions does not exist. but, a universal consciousness makes sense. the only way that a 'god consciousness' could be all just, all loving, all powerful etc etc is if we embrace freewill and...
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    Where were you before you born?

    Meteor, your statement makes me think of a consciousness gestalt, wherein the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. whatever we are, we are eternal in the sense that we always were and always will be. lord only knows the nature of our total being. love&peace, olde drunk
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    Violence or Nonviolence

    lol, you can't be cerial? evolution is showing us that "INTELLIGENCE" not physical strength is the answer. think about how you can post here and create social change whereas the physically superior caveman worked hard to just discover the wheel. do you want to be at the mercy of the...
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    Violence or Nonviolence

    ah, but let's look at the whole picture and go to the root cause. the world, primarily europe was so unfair to germany after WWI that the sense of hopelessness and helplessness gave hitler the power to persuade the people that violence was a solution. i trust that we have learned at this...
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    Violence or Nonviolence

    I believe your inner self influences you more than what your family, society, church or Malcom-X say. i think it is great to be able to admit that you are non-violent. it takes real courage to face any issue when violence is not an option. in looking at history, violence never solved...
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    Where were you before you born?

    Needless to say, your statement begs for a definition of 'me'. IMHO, I am an eternal spiritual being and chose to be here in this body for this brief period. To think that I would exist (being consciously aware) for such a nano second of the physical universe's history is illogical. Let's not...
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    Where were you before you born?

    Same place I always IS. Plus, I have my consciousness focused within a physical body to enjoy the wonders of a life on earth. Do we simutaneously exist in all 11 dimensions?? or is there 12? love&peace, olde drunk 'heaven was created by your clergy so that they could charge admission'
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    Omnipotent beings are self-contradictory?

    OR, the OB is an energy/consciousness gestalt wherein all knowlege, power, etc resides. If we want the immoveable object we go to it's point of existence or go to the irresitible object's point. Assuming both are continuously expanding it would be necessary to select the power point of each to...
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    The ultimate mystery

    oh gawd, this will sound sooo zen! we are as complete as we need to be or should be at this moment. BUT, we will never be complete because we are expanding within an infinite, expanding universe. even IF we should ever become complete within our current reality system, wouldn't we start...
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    Is War Right?

    as long as you/we believe in violence to solve our problems we will not find other solutions. historically, war has never proved to be a legitimate, long term solution to any problem. love&peace, olde drunk
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    Philosophy Forum Members

    waaaaay back in the 50's a high school diploma was an accomplishment. i also come to realize that i was the dumbest sumbiatch in the world. as such, i knew i had to listen to most people i met and soak up what they had to offer. i was lucky, without a formal education, i was able to get...
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    Materialism; A flawed philosophy

    Rad - cheer up! Rad, a lot of what you say or that Capra says has merit. the problem with this forum is that it is a hard core experiment, measure and prove enviornment. the realm of phillosophy is mental and beyond objective proof. while an experienced dream is very real and the...
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