Riemann curvature scalar, Ricci Scalar.What does they measure ?

In summary, the Ricci curvature scalar measures the deviation of a geodesic ball in a curved Riemannian manifold from the volume of a standard ball in Euclidean space. If the two volumes agree then the curvature is zero to fourth order in the deviation parameter.
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hello
Can you perhaps explain what does the Riemann curvature scalar R measure? or is just an abstract entity ?
What does the Ricci tensor measure ?
I just want to grasp this and understand what they do.
cheers,

typo: What DO they measure in the title.
 
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Let ##M## be a Riemannian manifold and let ##p \in M##. Given any unit vector ##X\in T_p M##, pick an orthonormal basis ##\{E_{i}\}## for ##T_p M## such that ##E_1 = X##. It can be shown that ##\text{Ricci}(X,X) = \sum _{k = 2}^{n}K(E_1,E_k)## where ##K(E_1,E_i)## is the sectional curvature of the plane spanned by ##E_1 = X## and ##E_i##. So the Ricci tensor can be interpreted as the sum of sectional curvatures of planes spanned by a unit vector ##X## in the tangent space and other elements of an orthonormal basis to which ##X## belongs.

Then, ##R = R_{j}{}{}^{j} = \sum_{j \neq k} (E_j,E_k)## i.e. the Ricci scalar measures the sum of all sectional curvatures of planes spanned by distinct pairs of elements in a given orthonormal basis.

There are many other ways to interpret it as well. See for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_curvature

Also see problem 9 of chapter 4 in Do Carmo "Riemannian Geometry" for an absolutely beautiful relationship between the Ricci scalar and the Ricci tensor in terms of the area of a sphere in the tangent space and the integral of the Ricci tensor over that sphere.
 
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zn5252 said:
hello
Can you perhaps explain what does the Riemann curvature scalar R measure? or is just an abstract entity ?
What does the Ricci tensor measure ?

There are pretty decent intuitive definitions at math.ucr.edu/home/baez/gr/
 
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Thanks to all.
In wikipedia it is mentioned :
"Specifically, the scalar curvature represents the amount by which the volume of a geodesic ball in a curved Riemannian manifold deviates from that of the standard ball in Euclidean space"

Does this mean that the volume of the sphere in the curved space which is 4/3Pi*r*r*r , which is also the same in eucledian space yields a null value for the Scalar curvature ?
 
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Let ##\epsilon > 0## be sufficiently small so that for ##p \in M##, ##B_{\epsilon}(p)\subset M## is a geodesic ball under the exponential map. It can be shown then that ##\frac{\text{Vol}(B_{\epsilon}(p))}{\text{Vol}(B_{\epsilon}(0)\subset \mathbb{R}^{n})} = 1 - \frac{R}{6(n + 2)}\epsilon^{2}+ O(\epsilon^{4})##. If the two volumes agree then ##R = 0## to fourth order in ##\epsilon##.
 

1. What is the Riemann curvature scalar?

The Riemann curvature scalar is a mathematical quantity that is used to measure the curvature of a given space. It is calculated from the Riemann curvature tensor, which describes the curvature of a space in terms of how much it deviates from being flat.

2. What is the Ricci scalar?

The Ricci scalar is a mathematical quantity that is derived from the Ricci tensor, which is a contraction of the Riemann curvature tensor. It is a measure of the intrinsic curvature of a space at a specific point.

3. How are the Riemann curvature scalar and Ricci scalar related?

The Riemann curvature scalar is a component of the Ricci tensor, which is used to calculate the Ricci scalar. The Ricci scalar is essentially a simplified version of the Riemann curvature scalar, and both are important in describing the curvature of a space.

4. What do the Riemann curvature scalar and Ricci scalar measure?

Both the Riemann curvature scalar and Ricci scalar are measures of curvature, also known as the bending or warping of a space. They are used in the field of differential geometry to describe the geometry of curved spaces, such as in general relativity.

5. Why are the Riemann curvature scalar and Ricci scalar important?

These scalars are important because they provide a way to mathematically describe the curvature of a space. In the field of general relativity, they are used to describe the curvature of spacetime, which is essential in understanding the behavior of matter and energy in the universe.

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