# Homework Help: 2 coupled EDOs

1. Jan 17, 2007

### quasar987

I must solve the following two coupled EDOs in the context of a Lagrangian mechanics problem (a rigid pendulum of lenght l attached to a mass sliding w/o friction on the x axis). The problem statement does not mention that we can make small angle approximation. It says "find the equations of motion and solve them for the following initial conditions:...". Is this feasable?

$$(m_1+m_2)\ddot{x}+m_2l\ddot{\theta}\cos(\theta)-m_2l\dot{\theta}^2\sin(\theta)=0$$

$$l\ddot{\theta}+\ddot{x}\cos(\theta)+g\sin(\theta)=0$$

They can be uncoupled but there remains a second order non-linear ODE to solve.

Is this doable analytically?

And an annexed question (perhaps this one is more of a physical nature): why can we say that $\dot{\theta}\approx 0$ in the small angle approximation? The angle can be small and nevertheless vary furiously fast. What indicates that if theta is small, the so is its derivative?

Last edited: Jan 17, 2007
2. Jan 17, 2007

### quasar987

Same question but with

$$\ddot{y}+ay+b\cos(y)=0$$

Solvable? (a,b are constants)

3. Jan 18, 2007

### dextercioby

The one in the second post is doable:

$$t+C_{2}=\int \frac{dy}{\sqrt{2C_{1}-ay^{2}-2b\sin y}}$$

It remains to compute the integral.

Mathematica returns

$$\int \frac{dy}{\sqrt{2C_{1}-ay^{2}-2b\sin y}} =-\frac{2}{\sqrt{2C_{1}-ay^{2}-2b\sin y}} F\left[\frac{1}{4}\left(\pi -2y\right), \frac{4b}{-2C_{1}+ay^2 +2b}\right]\sqrt{\frac{2C_{1}-ay^{2}-2b\sin y}{2C_{1}-ay^{2}-2b}}$$

Daniel.

Last edited: Jan 18, 2007
4. Jan 18, 2007

### cva

So how do you inverse the function t?

5. Jan 18, 2007

### dextercioby

By an appropriate use of Jacobi's elliptic functions. In this case i think sine amplitudinis.

Daniel.