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3rd class degree

  1. Jul 24, 2014 #1
    Hello i finished with a 3rd class honours degree in physics from one of the universities of london..I dont want to excuse myself..but since the start of the second term i had some health and mental problems which affected a lot my performance during the term and the examination period...I took the degree because of the extenuating circumstances and i got it with a 3rd...I have no idea what to do now...I would like to do master at the earth sciences as i got a module about geophysics, or a master at finance...can u tell me if i have a chance of getting into a good masters degree or should i look for a job?
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  3. Jul 24, 2014 #2

    if you love earth science, you won't miss anything trying to make application. I would not recommend finance.

    another option would be to get a MSc with the Open University. If you do well with them, this could be a significant advantage when moving from then onto a regular MSc.

    In some universities, (King's College London for example) there is the possibility also to do a "Graduate Diploma" for people who don't have the typical entry requirement of a MSc. Upon completion of the Graduate Diploma, they can do a MSc. Believe me you are not the only one in your case and Universities have really a range of routes for such profiles. have faith and go for Earth Science. :-)
  4. Jul 25, 2014 #3
    Do you think it would be better to find a part time masters degree in a university and try to find a job in the same field??Or do u think it would be better to search for a job work a couple of years and then do a MSc in a good university?
  5. Jul 26, 2014 #4
    An MSc won't overwrite your undergraduate result, so will likely be somewhat of a waste of money.

    What I would advise is trying to get into the world of work and just working your way up. With a 3rd it'll be more difficult to enter the jobs market than with a 2:1 or above, but it's not impossible.
  6. Jul 26, 2014 #5
    So it would be a waste of time to continue education you think?? Not even in the future?
  7. Jul 26, 2014 #6
    Immediately, yes, because it simply won't make up for your 3rd class degree at undergraduate level.

    In the future, when you're established in a career, enrolling on a masters might be worth it, as by that time your undergraduate degree will likely no longer be scrutinised during the recruitment process.
  8. Jul 26, 2014 #7
    So, your oponion is that the best thing i could do now it go get a job in the field i like and after many years if i want to do a masters, right?
  9. Jul 26, 2014 #8
    Basically, yes.
  10. Jul 26, 2014 #9
    and i shouldnt search not even for a part time masters, right?
  11. Jul 26, 2014 #10
    and something else...do u think that at the jobs that i will apply they will consider the extenuating circumstances that i had if i mention them?
  12. Jul 26, 2014 #11
    I don't know.
  13. Jul 27, 2014 #12


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    Isn't the idea of extenuating circumstances that it allows for some leniency when giving you a classification. So, you did your exams, got some particular grades, and then the extenuating circumstances were taken into account when the exam board met to give you a classification. I don't think it makes sense to use the extenuating circumstances again once you have a degree, since then it would be like using them twice. Without the extenuating circumstances, you would not have got the 3rd class degree (presumably).
  14. Jul 27, 2014 #13
    yes but i asked if i could repeat the modules that i failed...but they gave me the degree with 3rd...most likely i would take at least 2.2 if i could repeat these modules...so because of the extenuating circumstances i got a 3rd so i guessed that i could be good to mention it..
  15. Jul 27, 2014 #14

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    What if the person you are competing against who got a 2.2 would have got a 2.1 if he could have repeated those courses? Would that be fair?
  16. Jul 27, 2014 #15
    No it wouldnt be fair, but i had some health problems that affected the results...anyway as i said before i dont want excuse myself i am just trying to see what i can do to have bettter chances to get a job or a masters that i want
  17. Jul 27, 2014 #16
    Did you think about going to America? Most Americans don't understand the difference between a first and a third. They're both B.A. (hons). A good physics GRE score is probably at least as important.

    A year or two abroad can be fun. I ended up marrying an American girl and staying here.

  18. Jul 27, 2014 #17
    If i would accepted i would go...but i guess that the tuition fees must be very expensive..and still i think a 3rd is a 3rd everywhere
  19. Jul 27, 2014 #18
    Usually what happens in American physics departments is that the tuition fees are waived if you work for 15ish hours a week as a TA (teaching assistant). That option also pays you enough cash to live on.
  20. Jul 27, 2014 #19
    ok i will search for it...but i have to get a visa first and get accepted..
  21. Jul 27, 2014 #20
    do you have any site on mind to give it to me?
  22. Jul 28, 2014 #21


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    I don't think this is true. When applying to grad school you are bound to be asked for your GPA. While UK degrees don't really convert, an admissions department will have a rough idea of a conversion, and a third will probably convert to below 2.5 GPA. I can't see that this would get oyu into a decent grad school...
  23. Jul 28, 2014 #22
    In my time here in the US I don't think I've ever asked for or volunteered my class of degree on any application, academic or otherwise. For undergraduate GPA I've always just put "n/a".

    But of course the OP would need to offset this lack of information with a high GRE score and a couple of good references. And perhaps more importantly, be sure that he/she is motivated and capable of putting in the work required to achieve a graduate degree.
  24. Jul 28, 2014 #23
    anyway thank you all...i will consider everythin you said...probably i am gonna stay in europe searching for a job
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