# 4 cops shot in coffeehouse

1. Nov 30, 2009

Wow. Apparently this guy also raped a child... crazy $10 000 reward. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-11/30/content_9076194.htm [Broken] http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34194122/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ Last edited by a moderator: May 4, 2017 2. Nov 30, 2009 ### russ_watters ### Staff: Mentor I hadn't heard there was a "person of interest" (and it is good that there is), but I figured that this was far too specific a crime for the police to not find the killer. 3. Nov 30, 2009 ### Sorry! Yeah apparently the police believe he is injured but he's still 'at large'. 4. Nov 30, 2009 ### rootX Last edited by a moderator: May 4, 2017 5. Nov 30, 2009 ### Sorry! uhm I think so... 6. Nov 30, 2009 ### 206PiruBlood This just shortly after Which could have been alot worse http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010220077_webtukwila06m.html [Broken] This is unfortunate as Seattle is generally a pretty safe place. Been alot of this the last few years. Last edited by a moderator: May 4, 2017 7. Nov 30, 2009 ### lisab Staff Emeritus Officer Brenton was shot on October 31st, and there is no known link between the two cases. In this latest police shooting, the details are still coming out but it's horrific. Four officers were shot and killed, as they did administrative work at a coffee shop. The alleged shooter is a career criminal; he was out on bail at the time of the shooting. His rap sheet is crazy long...I can't believe he was even given bail. ...latest news: police may have him holed up in a house in Renton (a suburb of Seattle, about 12 miles from where I am right now). And yes, despite these latest shootings, Seattle is very safe. I've lived in this area for 20+ years, the only time I can remember being victim of a crime was when someone broke into my car at night at took all the quarters out of the ash tray (they left the dimes, nickels, and pennies!). Well the car's window wouldn't roll up so I couldn't lock it...I estimate the thief got away with about$3.00!!

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8. Nov 30, 2009

### edward

From the MSNBC link in the OP:

9. Nov 30, 2009

### lisab

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Update: apparently he wasn't in the house in Renton. The police are saying that his friends and family are helping him, and purposely misleading the police investigation.

Sounds like there may be a *lot* of people going to jail, eventually.

10. Nov 30, 2009

### Staff: Mentor

Why "eventually"? They should just haul the whole lot of them in and lock them up until they catch the guy! If they are helping him, they are essentially aiding an in-progress crime!

11. Nov 30, 2009

### lisab

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Oh there's a bunch of them in custody right now, and it appears the police are going after more as I type. The cops mean business...more power to them, I hope they get this guy and anyone giving him aid.

But I meant they should face charges and serve time, if found guilty. "Eventually" because trials tend to take a while.

12. Nov 30, 2009

### Ivan Seeking

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Yeah, I think Huck just lost the 2012 nomination.

13. Nov 30, 2009

### lisab

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Quite possible.

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14. Dec 1, 2009

### drankin

Currently, it is a \$125,000 reward. According to tonights news. Time to go makes sum munny. *click-slide-click*

15. Dec 1, 2009

### gravenewworld

16. Dec 1, 2009

### Newai

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010392869_shootingjustice01m.html [Broken]
Geeze. I'm glad I won't be directing his funeral.

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17. Dec 1, 2009

### leroyjenkens

I wish cops got this serious about every murder case. There's no reason why cop's lives are more valuable than anyone elses.

18. Dec 1, 2009

### Staff: Mentor

In my experience (I've known several police officers), they take every homicide seriously.

Just as with any hate crime, the officers here were specifically targeted because they were officers. I'm sure the response would have been the same if it had been another group of individuals who were specifically targeted.

Certainly, many police officers in many jurisdictions took very seriously the DC shooter who was shooting people at random in several states!

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19. Dec 1, 2009

### seycyrus

I don't think that cops are any less serious about other homicides. I do understand how they might feel they have a vested interest in this particular one, the perp. was targeting police.

20. Dec 1, 2009

### mheslep

Maybe, and he'll have to address freeing Clemmons, but the circumstances of Clemmons at his release time is a long way from that of Horton.

Horton: at the age of 23, commits a brutal murder during armed robbery, is sentenced to life in prison, but is later placed on a weekend furlough program. Gov Dukakis, through direct action of his veto, kept in place the program for 1st degree murderers thwarting the sense of the Mass legislature. During a furlough in 1986 Horton commits the crimes that made his case famous during the 1988 election.
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/released_killer_romney_/2007/11/29/53111.html

Clemmens: at the age of 16, commits a string of aggrevated robberies, sentenced to 108 years. Gov Huckabee, citing Clemmens age at the time, commuted Clemmons 108 years to 48 years in 2000. After serving ~10 years, the parole board then set Clemmons free, for which Huckabee and the Ar. legislature are still responsible.
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2009/11/maurice_clemmons_record.aspx [Broken]

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