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4 more years of Bush?

  1. Jun 21, 2003 #1
    I live a long way from America and it's difficult to keep up with American domestic politics. Can someone tell me who is likely to be the democratic party's nomination for president and do they stand a realistic chance of winning? Or is the world going to endure another 4 years of Bush?
     
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  3. Jun 21, 2003 #2

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    The president is gone. Long live president Bush !
    It takes a cowboy to deal with all the bad guys ! :wink:
     
  4. Jun 21, 2003 #3

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    It is hard to say at this point. The investigations into the war will probably be the determining factor. If Bush comes out clean, he is nearly a sure win. Of course, this is what what most people thought said about his father - good old what's his name. :wink:
     
  5. Jun 21, 2003 #4

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    Bush would win... simply as the opposition and divided and too stupid/naive to really take advantage of their opportunities. No one has really even tried to nail Bush.

    Hell, if any member of PF were to run currently against Bush or whoever the democrats pick, he/she will stand a good chance of winning, given enough publicity...

    Think about it people... Your big chance to rule the US!!
     
  6. Jun 21, 2003 #5

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    Nah. I'm running for Emperor of the World.
    And don't worry about Bush. The games have only just begun.
     
  7. Jun 22, 2003 #6

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    Nah ! We're too smart to wan'na be in power...
     
  8. Jun 23, 2003 #7

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    Yep.
     
  9. Jun 26, 2003 #8

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    I don't see any big challengers yet. Hopefully it will be an interesting election.
     
  10. Jun 26, 2003 #9
    Who ever wins the democaric canditdancy for president is going to win. If Bush does win (LOL), I will feel extremely sorry, because, then so many people are stupid in my country.
     
  11. Jun 27, 2003 #10
    If a liberal Democrat is elected I'm moving to Canada.
     
  12. Jun 27, 2003 #11
    Why? Seems like you would prefer a country like Iran...they are very conservative over there.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2003 #12
    The city I live in is pretty much controlled by liberal Democrats and it is not pleasant. The socialist attitude of the Democrats is really starting to scare me.
     
  14. Jun 27, 2003 #13

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    Now thats funny! They were just about to legalize pot.
     
  15. Jun 27, 2003 #14

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    Why? What sorts of things are they doing?
     
  16. Jun 27, 2003 #15
    That's true Canada isn't looking too good either....
    Let's see, what are they doing? Well you've all probably heard about the recent U of M lawsuit case. Basically the deal is that in the points system they use you get 12 points for a perfect SAT score, but 20 points for being black or hispanic. I haven't kept close track of the proceedings, but a friend of mine used to work in U of M admissions and she's seen cases where students were or weren't admitted because of their race. Also, there's a plan that's being pushed by the liberal Democrats in my area to implement a socialized education system where a student's school will determine whether the student needs psychological or medical care, and may want the student to have decided on his or her future career as early as 6th grade. The student may also request not to have their parents involved in their medical and psychological care and future career choices. Sounds like the making of a communist government to me. I don't agree with everything conservatives say, but considering the alternative I'm siding with them.
     
  17. Jun 27, 2003 #16

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    Well, I would be worried also. I was rather surprised at the [conservative] Supreme Court decision which, if I heard this correctly, allows for the continuation of affirmative action. Did I hear this right? And as far as schools and kids are concerned, yikes! I can see the reasoning for some of these things, but I'm with you, this is way too too much.

    Also, I side mostly with the Libertarians. I am an ex-democrat, and an ex-republican.
     
  18. Jun 27, 2003 #17
    You're only scared because you listen to too much talk radio...there's nothing inherently wrong with liberalism.
     
  19. Jun 27, 2003 #18
    No one ever mentions that if your parents went to U of M, you get the same number of points as a perfect SAT score. If you went to a fancy prep school and your parents are alumni, you get MORE points than you do for being a minority. And, if you are poor and white, you get the same 20 points as the minorities get. So, is it really racist, or is it Republicans exploiting racism again?
     
  20. Jun 27, 2003 #19
    Well the alumni thing doesn't help any either. I wonder if that could be ruled technically unconstitutional.... In any case, if they're aim is to help unfortunate students, the points should be awarded on a basis of income, not race. If they're goal is to create a diverse campus, the points should be given to students from other countries and states. I could see giving points on a basis of race, but there are also who-knows-how-many free tutoring programs and such that are strictly for black and hispanic kids in the area. I would also like to point out that Asians, which are also a minority, get no extra poits either.
     
  21. Jun 27, 2003 #20
    Oh, and lets not forget that you get 80 points for academic acheivement...they simply don't feel(correctly, actually) that SAT scores are all that important to future academic success. A black student with a 4.0 and a perfect SAT gets 112 points. A white student whose parents are allumni, who went to a good prep school, and has a 4.0 and 1600 SAT gets, I believe, 120.
     
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