Exploring the Existence and Mystery of 4th Dimension Space

In summary, according to relativity, in order to define an event anywhere, we require 4 parameters x,y,z and t. these represent the 4 dimensions. 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time makes 4 dimensions of 'spacetime'. This spacetime can get curved i.e both space and time can curve in the presence of matter. This is called spacetime curvature. We can very well experience the 4th dimension i.e time. Time can get 'slowed down' near a massive object. The amount of curvature due to matter can be calculated mathematically. Consider time as a river and spacetime as the riverbed(i.e surface
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jd12345
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Not sure if its the right place to post but still:-

I am confused over 4th dimension space( not time ). Does 4th dimension space really exist?
If it exists why we cannot see or visualise the 4th dimension?
 
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Higher dimensions are important for data sets that take multiple values. For instance wing length, height, weight, roundness, et cetera are multidimensional data sets that a aerospace engineer might consider.
 
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According to relativity, in order to define an event anywhere, we require 4 parameters x,y,z and t
these represent the 4 dimensions. 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time makes 4 dimensions of 'spacetime'. This spacetime can get curved i.e both space and time can curve in the presence of matter. This is called spacetime curvature. We can very well experience the 4th dimension i.e time. Time can get 'slowed down' near a massive object. The amount of curvature due to matter can be calculated mathematically. Consider time as a river and spacetime as the riverbed(i.e surface on which the stream flows). The speed of the river slows down at deep areas of the riverbed.These areas correspond to curved spacetime. You may now visualise the slowing of time due to the curved geometry of a 4 dimensional spacetime.
 
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jd12345 said:
Not sure if its the right place to post but still:-

I am confused over 4th dimension space( not time ). Does 4th dimension space really exist?
If it exists why we cannot see or visualise the 4th dimension?

in mathematics, a hypercube is a 4 dimensional computer generated figure. It is built on a 3D wireframe.Mathematically, n-dimensions are possible. To create a n-dimensional figure, you need a (n-1) dimensional wireframe.
Unfortunately, geometric figures with more than 4 dimensions is hard to visualise using human brain. Humans can't percieve higher dimensional objects,but computers can.
 
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Just for knowledge :
a space with more than 3 dimensions is called 'hyperspace'-a term used frequently in science fiction
 
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shreyakmath said:
in mathematics, a hypercube is a 4 dimensional computer generated figure. It is built on a 3D wireframe.Mathematically, n-dimensions are possible. To create a n-dimensional figure, you need a (n-1) dimensional wireframe.
Unfortunately, geometric figures with more than 4 dimensions is hard to visualise using human brain. Humans can't percieve higher dimensional objects,but computers can.

I think this is misleading and partially untrue. You can't accurately portray an nth dimensional object in any dimension<n. You can sketch a cube on paper, but you need to know what a cube looks like to interpret what you've drawn.

Likewise 3D wireframes of tesseracts are based off that idea. They are a distortion of the tesseract that is the result of compressing it into 3 dimensions. A fourth dimensional creature would see the 3D wireframe and be able to extrapolate what it is representing accurately, but we cannot.

The n-1 dimensional thing isn't correct because I can doodle a picture of a tesseract on paper. Now this is a compression of a compression, and when I imagine it I am only infact constructing a compression of the original, but still a 4th dimensional creature could visualize the tesseract from my paper sketch.


To clarify, those wireframes you see of tesseracts are not what tesseracts look like. You can think of them as what the shadow of a tesseract would look like in 4-space, but I don't think this is a really useful view.
 
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jd12345 said:
Not sure if its the right place to post but still:-

I am confused over 4th dimension space( not time ). Does 4th dimension space really exist?
If it exists why we cannot see or visualise the 4th dimension?

First, I would not take the number of dimensions all that seriously. All it really means is that our theories are easier to calculate when such a number of dimensions ischosen. Different theories have different numbers of dimensions. For example, I can think of the Universe as a vibration and use the Fourier transform, which gives us an infinite number of dimensions. I think that something like the Universe cannot be pinned down to a specific number of dimensions.

As far as 4D space-time goes, start with what Albert E. has to say. He wrote that time is what a clock measures and space is what a ruler measures. Already we are anthrocentric. He then showed that these two measurements depended on one another, contrary to what almost everyone thought. Time depends on space and vice versa.

But no, time is not at all like space. We perceive it quite differently, and treat it differently mathematically.
 
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I would disagree, the universe can be pinned down. We know there are only three 'large' spatial dimension and one time dimension. Absolutely no less than that.

There are theories that suggest more than that, but these are testable theories (or at least will be when matured) that can be substantiated or forgotten about.
 

1. What is the 4th dimension space?

The 4th dimension space is a theoretical concept that extends the three dimensions of length, width, and height to include a fourth dimension, often referred to as time. This dimension is typically represented as a line perpendicular to the three spatial dimensions, and it is thought to exist beyond our current perception and understanding.

2. How do scientists explore and study the 4th dimension space?

Scientists use mathematical equations and models to explore and study the 4th dimension space. They also use advanced technology such as computer simulations and virtual reality to visualize and understand this concept. Additionally, some scientists theorize about the 4th dimension through thought experiments and philosophical discussions.

3. Is it possible for humans to experience the 4th dimension space?

Currently, it is not possible for humans to physically experience the 4th dimension space. Our perception is limited to the three dimensions of length, width, and height. However, some scientists believe that with advancements in technology and understanding, we may one day be able to perceive and interact with the 4th dimension in some way.

4. What are some potential implications of the 4th dimension space?

The existence of a 4th dimension could have significant implications for our understanding of the universe and our place within it. It may help explain phenomena such as gravity and the behavior of particles on a quantum level. It could also lead to advancements in technology and allow us to travel through time or to other dimensions.

5. Is there any evidence for the existence of the 4th dimension space?

While there is no direct evidence for the existence of the 4th dimension space, scientists have observed and studied phenomena that could potentially be explained by the existence of this dimension. For example, the theory of relativity and the behavior of subatomic particles suggest the need for more than three dimensions to fully understand the universe. However, further research and exploration are needed to confirm the existence of the 4th dimension.

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