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hey, anyone out there care to offer their thoughts on the fourth dimension? as in what would it be, all I have is that a fourth dimensional object would seem like a 3 dimensional object moving down and then disapearing?
If you are looking from the macro to micro or micro to macro there is space between points whether it is logical or not. The atom is a point to us but there is a lot of space between the neuton and its electrons. When the hubble telescope looks at 1 arc second of the sky where nothing is visisble and thousands of galaxies appear there is most certainly space between the galaxies.Originally posted by John
The idea that points of space have varying amounts of separation is not contained in logic. Logic says something is a straight line, but if the points can have varying degrees of separation, the straight line can curve. If you make a very smooth marble table and call that flat, but look at it through a microscope, it is very rough. The points that make up space are not perfectly orderly, just like nothing else is perfectly orderly.
Originally posted by John
You can't come up with any more dimensions than three, in math. Math asumes there are an infinite number of points in any line, plane, or any cubic space. String theory says points are little strings, so a line has a certain number of points.
The real change comes when you construct a plane or a cubic space with strings. You suddenly realize you can only travel in seven directions in the cubic space, if you only travel along the strings. Since the strings represent points, then you can ONLY travel back and forth in seven directions. These directions become dimensions, but you still have the three classic dimensions. A straight line from point A to point B is not really straight. It has to zigzag through multiple dimensions in the underlying structure. When we understand how this structure works, we can manipulate gravity and momentum because they both work due to this underlying structure. Things don't float through space at consistent speeds, but they are pulled along a matrix of underlying dimensions at consistent speeds. My ideas predict that space will be more dense far away from massive bodies. In more dense space things will slow down, because the strings that make space are shorter. When Voyager mysteriously slowed down, after it left the solar system and the vicinity of Saturn, Jupitor, and Uranus or Neptune, I realized my ideas were right, and I started posting on these Internet sites.
Originally posted by sol1
I am having dificulty with the zig zagging that you are demonstrating.
http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/gallery/mathematics/diffeo/diffeo.html
How do you explain your zig zagging here?
Sol
Originally posted by John
I think I have actually come up with a mathematical proof that only infinite is infinite.
This line ____ and this line ___________ are different lengths, but we currently assume they both contain the same infinite number of non dimensional points.
Two lines that we know are different lengths CANNOT contain the same number of points.
String theory says a point is really a small line, for example, I typed four underlines to make the first line, and 11 underlines to make the second. The first contains four small lines, and the second contains 11. The only line that can contain an infinite number of small lines, or strings, is an infinitely long line.
Therefore, if we describe any space that has bondaries, that space must contain a finite number of points. If it contains a finite number of points, then the individual points must be arranged in a pattern within that space. If you have a space with 25 points like the one below, the points have to be arranged in a pattern. If that space were to have 25 million points, they still have to be arranged in a pattern. Then, when you go from one point to any point beside it, you can only go in a limited number of directions.
oooPoooPoooPoooPoooP
oPoooPoooPoooPoooPoo
oooPoooPoooPoooPoooP
oPoooPoooPoooPoooPoo
oooPoooPoooPoooPoooP
If you were to go from the bold P in the center to any point next to it, you can only go in three directions. If there could be an infinite number of points in this limited space, then you could go in any direction. There has to be a limited number of points in this limited space, and then the points must be arranged in a pattern. You can only go from any point in three directions. Check it out. Try to go in any other direction. You can only go from where you are to any point beside you. All travel is from point to point. You can't go between points, and you can't go around points.
The background on this website, as new screens come up, has many dots in a square pattern. If you are at any dot and you want to go to any dot beside it, you can only go in a limited number of directions (four), even though there are many dots.
The pattern of triangles, not squares, is a more stable pattern and only gives you three directions. In a cubic space the most stable pattern is tetrahedrons. One tetrahedron has lines going in six directions. Two tetrahedrons back to back give you seven directions. An infinite number of tetrahedrons still gives you seven directions. Those are the missing seven dimensions.