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50% of US believes in angels

  1. Sep 21, 2008 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/19/half-of-americans-believe-in-angels/
     
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  3. Sep 21, 2008 #2

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    Oh, he's not prejudiced, is he? :tongue:

    I wonder where these people were from, if it was people in Houston with such a large percentage of Hispanics and smack dab in the heart of Born again Christians, the study would be very skewed and not be representative of the US.
     
  4. Sep 21, 2008 #3

    cristo

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    Hold on a minute: whatever happened to "love thy neighbour"?
     
  5. Sep 21, 2008 #4

    Doc Al

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    That was never meant to apply to outsiders. :wink:
     
  6. Sep 21, 2008 #5
    Considering ~70% of the US population adheres to the Christian faith, i'm not one bit surprised 50% believe in angels. Christianity is a big thing in the US, but it appears to be slowly fading...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States
    http://www.adherents.com/adh_dem.html

    The shift away from Christianity and other organized religions:

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_prac2.htm
     
  7. Sep 21, 2008 #6

    Ivan Seeking

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    There is a secret handshake.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2008 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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    The mythology of Angels
    http://www.logoschristian.org/thrones/

    Here is one bit from the link that I thought everyone might find particularly amusing.

    Question: Are there female Angels?

    Answer: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Carl Sagan.
     
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  9. Sep 21, 2008 #8

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    They don't want to move in next to you, you might lower their property values. :biggrin:

    I didn't read the whole thing, but when people say they believe in guardian angels, do they really mean in the religious sense of angels? I mean, some people will refer to other people as their guardian angel...someone who looks out for them and at some point saved them from some major catastrophe in life. They mean it figuratively, not literally.

    Though, I'm inclined toward Evo's interpretation that the study didn't use a representative sample set here. 8% praying or speaking in tongues sounds INCREDIBLY high. I've made acquaintances with many people from many walks of life, and only ONE has ever claimed to have spoken in tongues. Even his other religious group members (they were in a Christian organization in college) who were even more extreme in their outward religious attitudes did not claim to have spoken in tongues...I know they hadn't experienced it because they expressed disappointment that they had never had the experience even though they wanted to. Of course, my friend who spoke in tongues is the only one who ever actually studied languages, including ancient Aramaic, in college, so perhaps it's not quite so surprising he would be the one prone to suddenly speaking in Aramaic during a prayer session.
     
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  10. Sep 21, 2008 #9

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    All this tells me is that 50% believe correctly, and the other half don't.

    Beliefs are nothing.

    Angels have a purpose amongst a lot of people on this planet. Many people need hope, and for some, ethereal beings in their heads are all that keep them sane.

    One day, my mom's angels told her to drink poison to cure her illness.

    Yes, they cured her. She was dead within 7 days. My father took the same poison several years later. Dead that day.

    But what does this have to do with people believing in angels?

    Little.

    Tell Tsu I still have 3 pounds of 7 flavors of rapidly dehydrating varieties of fudge waiting for her.

    :!!)
     
  11. Sep 22, 2008 #10

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    That is pretty funny! :rolleyes:
     
  12. Sep 22, 2008 #11
    If there are angels, then they are some lazy bastards..
     
  13. Sep 22, 2008 #12

    Ivan Seeking

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    I deleted a couple of posts that were insults to people of faith. While it is understandable that some people find religious or faith based beliefs logically offensive, please refrain from making personal insults.
     
  14. Sep 22, 2008 #13
    I really do think that such statistics are amongst the most worrying, and just plain scariest that there are.
     
  15. Sep 22, 2008 #14

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    According to the SciFi channel poll didn't 50% of Americans believe that aliens abducted people? I wonder how big the overlap is ?
     
  16. Sep 22, 2008 #15

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    Most rational people believe in some sort of causality. There are people who need to assign some sort of cause and effect to every single action, no matter how random, trivial, or important. This leads people to believe in things that they don't understand (thanks, Stevie Wonder) so they can make sense of a world that often does not make sense.

    I have a couple of very religious cousins who most certainly believe in angels and in a "meddling" diety. Whenever something happens to someone, no matter how good or bad, they manage to couch it in the terms of their faith, and it's standard for them to say "it was God's will" or "God wanted that child with him" when a child dies from cancer or "her angel was guarding her" when a lady is in a crash that should have been fatal, but it only maimed her instead. Both of these guys are very right-wing, politically, and though they are uncomfortable with McCain, they will be voting for him because of Palin.
     
  17. Sep 22, 2008 #16

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    Except those in https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=62

    I believe that as well, but in my case the angel was a guy at Subaru who designs anti-lock brakes and fortunately he DOES exist.
     
  18. Sep 22, 2008 #17

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    OK, we believe in causality at some level. At some point (going down to the very small), we have to allow that non-determinancy (uncertainty) must be reckoned with. Certainly, though, if I turn toes-up it is probable that a doctor will have some reasonable causative explanation. If a cosmic ray flips or destroys a piece of my DNA and I end up with a rare cancer, maybe we have gotten into an area of quantum uncertainty that could have ended my life.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2008 #18
    turbo-1:"most rational people believe in some form of casuality"

    Casuality is fine, but I am fairly certain that believing a cause can include "angels" based on absolutely no evidence other than "well... It'd be nice if there were!" is, by definition, irrational in itself!

    -Spoon
     
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    Sorry quote was sort not form ;)
     
  21. Sep 22, 2008 #20

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    Reminds me of another poll I read about, might have been 10 to 12 years ago, that more than half of Americans polled did not believe in evolution.

    (I forget the exact percentage, just remember that it was > 50%)
     
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